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[–]Totoro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Religion is not the answer, in-fact, I argue that religious is a cause of just as much war and strife. Religion is just as evil.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Religious people killed Jesus on the cross. Where? Jerusalem, Israel.

I follow Jesus, who never physically attacked any man and teaches all men to love one another.

Luke
9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

[–]Totoro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You follow Christianity, Catholism or Judaism, which neither of those three have clean hands. All three have committed atrocities and acted upon wars of religious reasons.

Let's play though.

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Leviticus 20:27 “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Deuteronomy 17:12 The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest who stands to minister there before the Lord your God, or the judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.

Shall I continue? Because your "Jesus" surely did attack people, he wanted them dead even if it's men who wrote that, they wrote that following him

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

All religions of the world are corrupt.  Men have distorted God's word to justify their own lusts.

God told both the Jews and the Christians:  Do not seek revenge on your enemies.  Wait on the Lord, and he shall avenge you.  (Romans 12:19, Deuteronomy 32:35)  The problem we see is men making wars when God never told them to fight.

The man Jesus, as the Son of God, never physically attacked anyone.  If he had, you would have given Bible verses, but you could not find any, so you turned to the Old Testament to see how he, as Jehovah, purged evil from the land.  But you could read prophecies from the New Testament also, where he says he will purge evil from the whole earth, and already is, bringing true peace to those that want it.

And what is wrong with that?  Should he allow evil to continue to curse us for ever?  Wait on the Lord, and he will defend you and deliver you out of the hand of your enemies.  Those who are evil and curse their fellow human beings do not want God to put an end to their wicked play time.

What side are you on? Do you hate war? Then we are on the same side.

Psalms 120:7
I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.

Jesus wants people to live, not die. Men find death when they choose sin instead of righteousness. But Jesus died for us, so we may be forgiven, and receive eternal life.

[–]Totoro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

God told both the Jews and the Christians: Do not seek revenge on your enemies. Wait on the Lord, and he shall avenge you. (Romans 12:19, Deuteronomy 32:35) The problem we see is men making wars when God never told them to fight. Men have distorted God's word to justify their own lusts.

Right after you said...

God told both the Jews and the Christians: Do not seek revenge on your enemies. Wait on the Lord, and he shall avenge you. (Romans 12:19, Deuteronomy 32:35) The problem we see is men making wars when God never told them to fight.

So which is it, do you follow gods word or did man distort gods word?

YOU can not cherry pick, if you say man distorted gods word, YOU do not know which of his words were distorted. They could have been very evil and they were distorted to look happier, vice versa.

That is my issue with you religious idiots. You contradict your self in the same fucking breath.

NOTHING you say in your comment is valid after you contradicted your self.

If man distorted gods word, and you were not alive to hear god or jesus speak, then you can not decide which of his words were distorted or not. That is called confirmation bias, you are using what you feel confirms your views as "correct gods words" but the reality is this, its a book that was written by man... and none of it is verifiable or true. What is true, is the carnage and death left in the wake of "your god" which you can not disavow, as it is part of your religious history.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You copied and pasted the same thing twice. Did you mean to do that? The point you tried to make is lost.

I would like to hear you answer my question: Do you also hate war, like me?

[–]Totoro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I did not, I was saying you said men distorted gods word yet you act as if you know gods word, you can not claim his words are distroted but know which have been and have not been, especially to suit your life.

War is horrible, yes, but to preach that religion is free of war was idiotic.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We agree then that war is horrible (and that is also in agreement with God). I said religion is corrupt. And you obviously agree with me (and God) there again. Remember, Jesus came to fulfill the law, but was killed by the religious leaders. Jesus is not your enemy, but the religious are.

Men use God's word to fulfill their lusts, but God's word is pure. It is not God who is evil, but man.

[–]Totoro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Religion is a creation to have a higher power, god is a creation of religion. God is not a real thing. It was a point of reference to try and explain the weird scientific happenings and weather changes in pre-intelligent man, when they did not know what was going on.

Christianity came about because someone wanted control and religion at the time was a way to do so. They did not control any of the other religions and so Christianity was created.

So yes, god is an evil creation that was used to justify murder.

Fuck off with your religious bullshit.

but God's word is pure.

How do you know? You said man corrupted the word of god so you have no idea what is actually gods word or not. God is evil.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your words show that you recognize man is the one who is evil, not God. Why do I make this conclusion? Because you say man made a lie to justify his evil deeds. You say there is no god. So then, who is actually evil? It cannot be the god that does not exist, according to you, but the man who made the lie who is evil.

But I thank the true and living God for his care and benefits. He has sent angels to heal me when I was sick. I saw them (briefly) and experienced healing, so you can tell me off all you want, but you cannot convince me to forsake the source of my life. You cannot yell loud enough to cause me to believe there is no spirit realm with a Father of spirits that cares for all.

And how do I know God's word is pure? I pray and ask him. You could do the same. He answers anyone who seeks the truth. And he gives us intelligence and a conscience so we can discern what is a lie and what is the truth.

If I am against war, and if you are against war, why are you against me? I am not one of those that corrupt God's word to justify senseless wars.