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[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How many Americans wear masks?
How many Americans make others wear masks?
How many Americans get vaccinated?
How many Americans actually value freedom?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not very many.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Long before Clinton. This goes back to Kissinger in the early 70's, when the US and Mao's China made nice-nice.

The choice was very logical. The US had a societal crisis about industrial production. There was a lot of public pressure about pollution, spiritual degradation, and exploitation of workers. The ruling class - as it always does - looked for a PR solution.

"Hey! The Chinese are willing to exploit their population as slaves and then send the goods to us for cheap. Win-win! China 'develops', and we get cheap shit manufactured somewhere else. No pollution in the U.S. No workers exploited in the U.S. Magic, we become a 'clean' country and we still get our cheap shit! This is great!"

It's the ultimate NIMBY, and it's worked for 50 years. We sent our 'recycling' there as well. Consumers in the US don't care about slavery as long as they can't see it in front of them; ditto polluted cities. South and East Asia became the places willing to take on the negatives the US wouldn't tolerate.

For all the bitching about China, notice the reality of Asian trade hasn't shifted recently; only the rhetoric. Americans are quite addicted to cheap, convenient crap showing up at our doors on demand. As long as China and India are willing to play the game, it's a pretty solid economic structure. Hard to break.

It will break, however, when the dollar is dethroned. That's going to be a shock very few in the US are remotely prepared to face.

edit to add:

Bonus points to those who recognize that the above decisions were taken at the same moment when the US went bankrupt under the old monetary system and closed the gold window to maintain their pre-eminent role in the world. These events are all absolutely intertwined.

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actual chinese crap is anything but convenient; you can easily end up waiting over a month for some Chi-Fi equipment and 1/4th of the time customs has clearly rooted through it first

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think it's without a global reason the US shoved away from Gold standards. When 2008 hit the months before the Baltic Index was steady dropping and entire shipping fleets were being sold at a loss thru that summer up to the crash. The fleets were not going nowhere as Obama's 'energy' policies were wrecking the thing and Bush caved in a year before in his 'awwwww shucks' attitude. Awww shucks is right we paid for his shit!

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Running which "show" exactly? And then, what do you believe Americans should be doing?

[–]DirewolfGhost 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Many of the old conservatives believe god will allow them to sing his praises eternally and are just waiting to die. Many of the youth are ignorant due to the blind spot of the old conservatives' god that there could be a system slimy enough to subvert the family. A new conservative movement will grow amongst the families now that the government has declared war through the institution of public education and we will see which institution has more endurance.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It feels like the old conservatives fall back onto their 'God will magically fix everything' and today's youth don't want to go that route. Is that what your saying?

[–]DirewolfGhost 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The female youth that feel a desire to propagate aligned with the male youth that have a desire to pass on knowledge will coalesce into a faction and outbreed the obsolete and delusional.