New York Times runs opinion piece praising China's version of "freedom"

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[–]hennaojichan 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Slavery is Freedom.

[–]supper 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The slavery is bc we don't do shit. In the past you would get killed for this shit. Neighbors would burn your shit down, you'd be ostracized. Your headquarters would be burnt to the ground for being fake. I am guilty as well, I sit on my computer. But in the past, your life ended with shit reporting, and it wasnt party related, you lied once, you where done. Real reporting was glamorized, you said truth, and exposed shit, you where good, people protected you.

[–]supper 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look at ben swan, real reporter, wasn't protected. Instead, we get sit on saying its a conspiracy, when we damn well know about groups like ls media, bd media, and terabytes of child sex porn being found in trunks. Guesss it's just fake shit.

[–]djhdlkguhaeil 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

This is a problem with the educated class. The more retarded an idea you can justify with a wide vocabulary and references to dead academics and poorly conceived studies the better your career will be when writing for these rags.

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The more disconnected a person is from needing to produce genuine value to survive, the more insane the ideas that person will be open to accepting. The result is the ruling oligarchy. Many of them actually believe the shit they spout. If that doesn't scare us, I don't know what will.

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The more disconnected a person is from needing to produce genuine value to survive, the more insane the ideas that person will be open to accepting.

This is one of the most insightful things I have read on this site in awhile. Thanks.

[–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s like there’s an ego feedback loop where the more radical the idea, the smarter they are for it.

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    [–]jykylsin2034 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    Israel did

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    Israel won the Maoist Revolution, and the fallout from it. They won the American revolution and the fallout from it

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    Israel won the Maoist Revolution

    Explain?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    It has worked out in their favor, duh. Same with Russia, although that one is a bit harder to define. I can't always tell with the Russians if they are just in it for themselves, or not. I can't tell.

    But with China, it is easy. Just look into it, the information is publicly available. Half of it is available through wiki, the rest is easy to find with news reports and such. Top people from both countries have been friends for decades. Mao was friends with top Zionists of his time. You know what's happening in China? They'd like to do that everywhere. In fact, it is already happening everywhere, albeit, quite slowly in some places. Really fast in others, like America.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    'Look into it' is not an adequate answer when someone asks you to expand on a point you make, much less so such a bold claim that Israel had a hand in the Chinese 'Maoist revolution'.

    Secondly, what is the 'Maoist revolution'? Do you mean the Communist Revolution off the back of the Chinese Civil War in 1949? Or do you mean the cultural revolution in the late 60s and early 70s?

    Or, more likely, are you just a typical Saidit cretin who wants to pin everything on ThE JeWs?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    https://forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/

    https://national-justice.com/chinese-official-we-subvert-america-through-wall-street-jews

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Ah, so one Jewish guy in China and a video of a Chinese man talking on a stage (the original of which has been deleted, of course) prove that actually the Jews were the sinister puppet masters of the cultural Revolution. Shouldn't you be shooting things outside Congress right now?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "one Jewish guy"

    Until I saw the documentary “The Revolutionary” at the Philadelphia Independent Film Festival, I mistakenly thought that China during the revolutionary period was one country that had not felt the Jewish embrace. In fact, 85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish. This included the daughter of the founder of the brokerage firm Goldman Sachs, who left the comfort of her Park Avenue home to assist the Chinese.

    And the video's right here.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    The Maoist Revolution was basically a mixture of all three of these things, c'mon dude. You can't easily explain one without explaining the others. And yes, telling people to google search is fine. I don't hold people's hands. If I have the information saved, you'll get it. The thing is, I don't save anything on history because most of the history I read is through books or now deleted pdfs. Sorry I can't hold your hand, sally-may.

    Do I pin everything on "ThE JeWs"? (Cute, btw) No, I pin everything on sick mental habits and the beings who cause them. It just so happens, by no fault of my own, that many of the worst habits are being spread by rich Jews.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Mhm, so it is ThE jEwS then.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Mhm, so you can't read. No, there are plenty of others joining in. Like you.

    [–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You know who else is joining in? The Jews.

    Gasp

    [–]dontbuyanylogos 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    didnt the CCP lock up journalists and doctors at the start of the outbreak?

    [–]Tarrock 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    s/mediapunchback

    They only publish this kind of shit because it's profitable to do since no one holds they accountable.

    [–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    It's only profitable because they have access to the printing press when their 'profitability' runs into snags. The propaganda organs will not be allowed to fail. CNN is a great example of this.

    [–]Tarrock 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    CNN is losing AT&T a billion a year and they're trying to sell it off since it's only going to get worse from here without Trump. If they figure out they can't sell it, they'll just kill it. It's better to sell off something dying for someone else to kill it rather than killing it yourself. If people hit them while they're down, they WILL fail and they WILL die.

    [–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The future will tell. If "CNN" dies, however, will not some equivalent be put in its place? The establishment must always make sure there exists a broad funnel to flood the public with their chosen narrative. In the USSR it was called Pravda, in China the China Daily; the US oligarchy is more subtle about direct attribution, but the effect is the same.

    [–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yes and no.

    The media is on its last leg at the moment and that's why the government and silicon valley has done everything in their power the last 4 years to keep them afloat. Once they start dying, the few that don't will end up like Washington Post, bought and paid for by the richest person in the world and getting hundreds of millions in CIA money through contracts with their parent company.

    The trash will die. The goal is to kill off most of the trash and wake up enough people that the ones still standing due to the above are literal government funded propaganda and to get the following reforms put in place. Don't think for a second that trash like MotherJones, Newsweek, or Huffington Post will be around in 4 years.

    1)Separate government and media. Funding can't go from one to the other. No more CIA contracts to media empires. No more Super PAC money to shit like shareblue.

    2)Return The Fairness Doctrine and get rid of the Obama Era legislation allowing legal propaganda.

    3)Increased liability laws related to the media smearing both public and private individuals with; anonymous sources, knowingly taken out of context audio and clips, malice targeting of private individuals (ie that latest example of the NYT helping to get that girl kicked out of college for saying nigger when she was 14) and other fake news.

    4)More regulation put in place to prevent media monopolies. Media companies would not be allowed parent companies.

    [–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Unfortunately, your four rules would require honest rulemakers. Given that this is precisely the problem, not sure how that's going to come about.

    Other than that, I'm interested to see you put CNN in the same category as HuffPost or MotherJones. While all the outlets you mention spread the same message, the platforms are quite different tactically. I say this based on having been traveling this past week and being in airports. CNN is more than just "another outlet". CNN is displayed in public spaces, and there is no opting out. If you are in that space, there will be a screen showing you CNN whether you like it or not. It's the closest thing I've seen so far to Orwell's telescreens. The raw brainwashing value of having a soundtrack like CNN entering people's brains passively when in public spaces is a big deal. Then there are the CNN stores where people go to buy their snacks, newspapers, sundry, etc. The brand is huge, and it has nothing to do with their "popularity". It's about the saturation value. CNN, by saturating people's brains like this, becomes the story. Whether people agree or disagree, the constant blitzkrieg exposure to this material defines what CNN says as the dominant narrative.

    Are they going broke based on any sort of popular support? Absolutely. You and I agree on that. But simply that act of defining "what the story is" is far too important for the establishment to let it go. When they lose control of that power, they will be done. I can see them operating a similar saturation campaign under a new brand (e.g. TimeWarner become Spectrum), but this type of propaganda is not going away. Until the whole thing falls apart, there will be a "CNN equivalent" with us for the duration.

    Interestingly, bringing this back to the topic of the OP, it is more and more apparent that the CNN equivalent in the US is now becoming a subsidiary of Chinese propaganda. I thought the US had more independence from China than we have been shown to do in the past year. The good news is that CCP management of our country is becoming too explicit to hide. Whether that's enough to wake people up to the seriousness of our situation? That's an open question.

    [–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Things are about to change in a big way. The media is on its last leg and things are about to take a major u-turn irl.

    The right just saw an election get stolen from them and are realizing that their party is both spineless and useless. They're realizing that perhaps the police aren't on their side. The left is about to figure out that things will go back to the way in the Obama era and it wasn't the flowers and rainbows they've been indoctrinated to believe. The government moves slowly and the left will not get the crap they've been demanding for the last 4 years. If they get anything it'll be watered down like Obamacare was. Both sides just saw billions go to foreign countries and Politician pet projects (The Kennedy Center) and are starting to wake up to this when they only got crumbs. The lockdowns are about to be cranked up to max, which will insure that many more people lose everything. The antifa rioting isn't going to stop, if anything, it'll get worse especially now that the right will be doing it. I think something big politically is coming.

    The media is about to go back to sleep. Think people are going to watch the news when they're getting hard hitting news that Joe Biden's Dog told a pet psychic that he's happy to go to the white house and his master will be a good president compared to them being told everyday that Hitler is in the white house and he's exterminating minorities? Many of them have lost A LOT of money the last 4 years and that's even with the bump Trump gave them.

    CNN literally pays airports to have them on the tv. They spend MILLIONS a year on this. Let's look at Sears, if they had put a billboard EVERYWHERE, yet no one wanted what they were selling, would they still be around? No, because no one wants what they're selling. Did you know that 50 year old episodes of Scooby-Doo on boomerang get more viewers than CNN during primetime? Now imagine what's about to happen now that Trump will be gone.

    Like I said, AT&T is trying to sell CNN Because of how much money they're vampiring a year. AT&T is beholden to their shareholders and if CNN starts losing a lot more in the next few years, they'll be gone real fast. And if you read the article, you'll see that they're literally talking about selling it to Jeff Bezos (Amazon and Washington Post owner). With what's about to happen, if this goes through, this will really wake people up, but then again I expect a monopoly risk to stop a sale like this.

    The goal of s/mediapunchback is to cost these companies money for their unethical behavior the last 4 years (at a minimum) and to wake people up to the scummy inbreeding between the media, the elite, and government.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Did I miss the link? How does one get to see the NYT opinion piece? Why should we believe reclaimthenet.org?

    Edit: I found the opinion piece, which is not about "freedom", but an article for the business community discussing the state of affairs in China, or at least what the Chinese government want us to see:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/business/china-covid19-freedom.html

    The title about "its version of freedom" is indicative of a restrictive environment that - according to the opinion of the author and editor who chose this title - has now allowed for a reduction in COVID19 restrictions. This is not so say that there is freedom in China in the Western sense of that term. Indeed, the subtitle states: "Surveillance and censorship bolster Beijing’s uncompromising grip on power." For businesspeople, this is an informative article. For most of us, Chinese authoritarianism is obviously the worst for one's quality of life.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Chinese authoritarianism is already in America. It just is hiding behind a thin curtain. They have cameras on most street corners. They can do warrantless searches. They can trace your movements now, legally. The only difference is that Americans can go buy guns. Not a big whoop since we won't use them. Still, this has kept the thin curtain up, and it obviously works very well. Edit: We live in a world that is shockingly similar to 1984 "Remember, the East has always been at war with the West!"

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ok

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    authoritative regimes

    [–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    By giving manufacturing to the Chinese (thank you Henry Kissinger), we gave the creation of real wealth to the CCP - as opposed to paper wealth. This means they have the power, they call the shots.

    That said, given that when anyone with the talent to create wealth (e.g. Jack Ma) becomes too successful, the CCP destroys them, they may yet go down in flames, even with the advantage they've been gifted through western corruption.

    Overall, Orwell has been right over the target.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Since the New York times put it behind a paywall, we could claim that the New York Times is also praising China for practicing cannibalism.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    this could be fake news, i can't see what nytimes really says

    [–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Isn't it just amazing how accurately the Rockefeller foundation predicted things? I guess they have a crystal ball.

    [–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    NYT also had Hitler on their cover, so I wonder if history is repeating here.