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[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

interesting. I worked with one of their daughters. i think that is vague enough to keep me anon still.

Did you ever work through John Lilly's metaprogramming / human biocomputer stuff? There are mechanisms to become aware of the manipulation of your ego layers.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In this pioneering study, renowned scientist Dr. John C. Lilly explodes our sense of the boundaries of the human brain, as he details his controversial experiments with exploring the mind's vast potential. Starting from the position that man is essentially a biological computer, Lilly explains we are all born with some "programs" -- such as eating, sleeping, and feeling pain -- ingrained in our genetic code. Our ability to take in new information and to develop ideas beyond these innate programs depends on our capacity for "metaprogramming," or learning to learn.

Then Lilly goes on to explore his process of metaprogramming power with LSD and sensory deprivation, according to this source.

Bandler came out with a twist on NLP called Design Human Engineering, where you essentially take the NLP skills and use them to create an image of a mental 'control panel', in all representational systems, with buttons, sliders, and switches you link to your entire experience of the world.

From this panel, you then create your desired experience by adjusting the submodalities in any given representational system and context. It has more depth to it than that description. Here's a useful critique and comparison of DHE to NLP.

https://www.neurosemantics.com/a-critique-of-the-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-dhe/

Those early days were pretty wild and crazy. It's been awhile since I've been involved, and have been living my life as a normal for the most part. Imo, you can have too much knowledge and control over your (and others) experience, and there's something to be said for living simply and as it happens. But that's just my opinion. For anyone interested in this kind of thing, it's a fascinating and useful way of experiencing consciousness.


https://nlpco.com/ - Recommended training and info source.

http://www.steverrobbins.com/nlpschedule/w_neuro_linguistic_programming_definition.html

/u/Earendil

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Thanks, Node.

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👍

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Can you two please talk about this more publicly while still keeping your anonymity? This is useful information to learn. u/Node I think bob might be gone, so this may fall to you.