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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's strange they're called "invincible" when they're such broken people... seems like a reversal of terms to me. Interesting write up, thanks.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

It's strange they're called "invincible" when they're such broken people.

They think a person has nothing to lose is most horrible,and they don't know how to dealing with 無敵の人.

I think it causes by 漢字 characters in Japanese.

無敵の人=invincible people

無職=Jobless

You should ask someone from Japan...

u/hennaojisan?

Another reason is I can feel the satirical tone and fearful from the whole Japanese society towards this kind of people.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I know it's not the same, but in Chinese 無敵 translates to "unequaled, without rival, a paragon"

I kind of like "unequaled". But I think your phrase "person with nothing to lose" is the best translation probably. That conveys the fear properly.

[–]Snow 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I put it into google translate,the result is invincible person...

Should I open a learning Chinese sub?I didn't find another native Chinese speaker on Saidit.

I think you didn't consider the Japanese culture for saying that... Japan is a nation that with serious vicious competition,people often thinking how to winning others in business,then they are very easy to get the idea of "invincible".

[–]wendolynne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yes please, a learning chinese sub!

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes I just find the use of "invincible" odd when that is the very group that is most likely to commit suicide, I guess.

A chinese learning sub would be cool!

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes I just find the use of "invincible" odd when that is the very group that is most likely to commit suicide, I guess.

The result of a nation with too many wars in history.

A chinese learning sub would be cool!

I have to wait few days for creating it.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have to wait few days for creating it.

Sounds fine, I am moderator of too many subs already haha

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, I think it is being used in a sarcastic/satirical way as a meme since, of course, invincible almost always means a strong person. But in another sense—not the insane murderer that people are talking about—invincible could be a Buddha or Bodhisattva, who has nothing material, but everything spiritual. That person would also be invincible but I don't think anyone is using it in the second way. I will ask some Japanese and try to get a better understanding.

Muteki also means: has no enemies. So, perhaps a person who has nothing to worry about, no obstacles. (?)

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought the meme is from the mental state of someone playing a video game.

The satirical tone from the society to a certain group is one of reason making more 無敵の人 and make them more "invincible".

By the way,I think there will be more and more 無敵の人 came from Fukushima.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's right, the phrase came from video games—when you get enough life points you become invincible. But it was first used about 2008 by the originator of 2-chan. He meant it as the opposite of invincible (thus sarcastic/satirical) meaning people so alienated that nothing, no threat or punishment or even death can deter them from whatever evil deed might enter their demented imaginations. I think you said almost the same thing. There will be more of this but, for now, Japan is still an amazingly safe society. Even the US has been getting safer, with less violent crime since the late eighties when government agents were selling crack cocaine in poor areas. Those in power want us to be afraid because people living in fear are easier to control. School shootings are faked to control us. Racism is also wildly exaggerated or being created by people paid by Soros or others and manipulated by agents provocateurs. The world situation is not as bad as those in power want you to believe. Fight them by being happy and positive.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a translation, don't take it literally. You're missing a whole bunch of cultural baggage.

The invincibility is the inability to harm them. Their lives were ruined long ago and they've got nothing.