In a Nail Biter, Denver Voters Say Yes to Psilocybin Magic Mushrooms: Psychedelic Decriminalized by 2,000 Votes | The shrooms won. City cops are supposed to ignore mushrooms if they find them, and the DA isn't supposed to spend money to prosecute. In other words: no one will go to jail for fungus.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Interesting. I admit I was uninformed regarding decriminalization. Of course my argument still stands that legalization still sets in stone laws on licensure, taxation.l, fee measures, etc., for centralized control. There's no doubting that.

Decriminalization should properly include the selling of a plant, like any other plant, as it was hundreds of years ago. But their junk legal definitions for terms has changed their meanings to their opposite.

Yes, so we are in agreement, thanks for correcting me. I still think marijuana should be outright decriminalized through legislation from ALL activities. Legalization is great, if the locals and community can play their game. Meaning decentralization; the power into the hands of the community, rather than legalization that merely centralized something.

My state legalized marijuana recently, and although, like you've said, it is a step forward, it also could be the final step. That step simply increased prices, implented harsaher regulations, ever expanded fees and rules, centralized control, gave some monopoly power to corporatists, making it hard to start up a smaller bussiness. Basically, legalization in many states l, if, the legislation isn't looked through with a fine toothed comb could be detrimental to liberty annd decentralization

[–]Zombi 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I'm glad you can see my point now. I'm all for decriminalization of all drugs tbh, for reasons I've already listed. I don't think it's a bad thing at all, but I think legalization is the ultimate goal.

I don't want monopolization over the marijuana industry either and I'll fight right alongside you for laws that allow us regular Joe's to open up small businesses in that market. I can understand your worries on that front, but that's why we need to focus on the actual issue: lobbying (something I'm vehemently against. It's basically a legal bribe and it's corrupt as hell).

I completely understand your worries about over-regulation within the industry as well. I agree; we should be cautious of the laws introduced and "go over them with a fine toothed comb" because as you've stated: huge companies will be looking to stomp out any and all competition through standards that smaller companies just cannot compete with (such as high fees for licensing or expensive materials required to be up to standard as an example). I'm not completely against regulation, though. I feel it's necessary to protect the consumer and the workers within any industry (see the 1920's meat industry for an example of how no regulations can harm and even kill people). I understand your fears of over-regulation and how harmful that can be for small business, but the solution isn't to keep it decriminalized, it's to fight to create a system that benefits small business and the consumer equally, while reigning in the larger corporations to avoid monopolies.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

huge companies will be looking to stomp out any and all competition through standards that smaller companies just cannot compete with...

That's a cronyists idea of a faux-free market. Now when libertairans or classical liberals even mention free market capitalism people think they are referring to the neoliberal idea of free markets. Regulation is needed to curtail over-regulation of small businesses as well as making it virtuously impossible to create a monopoly that actively infringes on an individuals right to the liberties he is endowed with upon birth. God's law and common law, something the state despises for its people to understand and utilize to their benefit will be suppressed by them till death. Hence, why they have ridded the teachings of these fundamental laws.

EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID I AGREE WITH. When I refer to a free market, I'm referring to the classical liberal stance, not the neoliberal one. However, does it really matter when the regulators ARE bought off by the cronyists? It is a revolving door. People claim Trump deregulated certain sectors of the markets and the economy but in reality they regulated it for themselves. As the regulators have obvious conflicts of interests. They simply just change words to lawfully mean something else, and this is what confuses almost everyone who does not have an iota of knowledge concerning law.