New York City attempts to forcibly vaccinate orthodox Jews

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[–]cmdrrockawesome 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

There should be no personal or religious exemptions from getting vaccinated. None. The only legitimate excuse is medical.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I'm on the fence, but with only 5 people going to ICU and no deaths, this doesn't seem to be a public health emergency.

[–]cmdrrockawesome 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It's a completely preventable disease. The only reason people are getting it is because they're ignoring science. I'd say that's an emergency.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I think America is all about the freedom to make poor decisions and even die if they are poor enough. The state has no right to impose rationality or morality. We're talking about a forced medical procedure.

[–]cmdrrockawesome 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I think it has every right to protect the most vulnerable. When some jagoff reads a mommy blog article about vaccines and decides to endanger the immunocompromised and young children, I have a problem. The government should 100% step in. Your personal choices and freedom end when they endanger other people.

You want to get sick and possibly die from something? Great. Just don’t go out in public and never interact with anyone else for the rest of your life. There’s your freedom.

[–]Work2Death 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah, I'll take a hard pass on that level of authoritarian nightmare. My body - My choice.

I'm not against vaccination - I'm for not pissing away what few rights we have left to a government that will abuse that power.

[–]cmdrrockawesome 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No one has a right to infect vulnerable people.

[–]Work2Death 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No one has a right to violate someone else's body without consent. That's kinda rapey, dude.

[–]cmdrrockawesome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Happens all the time in law enforcement and it's 100% legal (well, most of the time). I'm ok with governments at any level passing laws to ensure people get vaccinated.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then why don't you make that the crime? I think knowingly giving someone HIV is already a crime.

[–]cmdrrockawesome 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, 1. I'm not a politician, but 2. I would absolutely introduce a bill like that if I were.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

which is what vaccination often is

[–]cmdrrockawesome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We need a new plague.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Well my tax rate will surely explode once we start protecting kids from obesity, heart disease, diabetes, intoxicated parents, etc. etc.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It doesn't in other countries.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Probably because they have clean food to start with. Show me a country regulating what you can and cannot feed your kids.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Does counter-propaganda count?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, we have programs like that in the US too.