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[–]Alduin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Can you imagine being a dwarf and being told by strangers that they're going to pass a law to ban you from an activity that they would consider embarrassing if they were in your shoes? To be told that you're so incapable of rational thought that you must be saved from the humiliation of your own poor decisions. And to have that process so far removed from you that it's going to pass or fail regardless of any input from you, simply because they're many and you're few, and the many need to pat themselves on the back for their self-righteous piety.

Sad thing is it happens all the time. Constantly, to one segment of the population at a time.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was awarded the second place trophy in a tallest dwarf competition.

Ah, the good old days...

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Normally I'd disagree with this kind of sentiment. But this one is, in general, true.

However, for this specific example… Dwarf tossing can cause serious damage to the spinal columns of people with weak spinal columns to begin with. Source.

[–]Alduin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ah, well as long as we're also taking away their agency to make health decisions for themselves then it's not as bad.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not as black and white as I once thought. No, this legislation probably shouldn't go through. But it's not just there because people don't like it. I think you should read this.

[–]Alduin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was an interesting read, but heavy on the virtue signalling opinions and light on facts. I don't know if it's true, but for example, I am reading from other sources that it's far less dangerous than football. Never in my wildest dreams would I think to ban football, even over completely legitimate safety concerns.

Here's my basic sentiment. It very well may be dangerous, humiliating, and distasteful. But I would rather be injured and humiliated than to have my own agency removed so that I'm not allowed to injure or humiliate myself. We should start looking at our own agency as a solution (don't go to the event) rather than looking to remove the agency of others, and especially for such a self-righteous and condescending reason as "for their own safety".

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

heavy on the virtue signalling opinions

Oh, definitely.

We should start looking at our own agency as a solution (don't go to the event) rather than looking to remove the agency of others

Oh, yes. But is that always easy? I can think of more than a few examples of when it isn't, depending on your political opinions as to whether they're applicable.

[–]dcjogger[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Government should stay the hell out of people's business.

http://www.campidiot.com/ci/viewforum.php?id=28

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even for safety regulation? Do you oppose OSHA?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is "Bill"?
And why did he take up this issue?

[–]dcjogger[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do we need government for anyway?

If a private association like the MPAA can regulate movies, why can't the private market regulate other things?

When the TSA fingers your asshole and pulls your cock, is the real purpose to protect you or to make you feel like a degraded slave?

When people smoke now, people just call the police on them, but people in the past either took some personal responsobility and ignored smokers, moved away from smokers, or asked smokers to go somewhere else. The problem with a police state is everyone now is either or a slave or a criminal. Who pays the taxes to pay for tyranny?

If smoking is dangerous, can't nonprofits raise funds to pay for educational campaigns that warn of the dangers of smoking instead of outlawing smoking?

Can't people use the BBB to verify if a business is good or not instead of forcing companies to pay fees to get a government business license?

Can't private charities funded by volunteer donations provide homeless shelters and soup kitchens instead of being at forced at the point of a gun by the government to pay taxes that fund welfare?

Can't people use to protect themselves instead of relying on the Gestapo?

Can't neighbourhoods hire private security firms to protect their homes?

Can't the free market provide toll roads?

Can't the free market provide private airports?

Can't the free market provide private schools?

Can't the free market provide disaster relief instead of FEMA?

Can't the free market run delivery services instead of the USPS?

Can't the free market run railroads instead of Amtrack?

Think.

[–]dcjogger[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whose body is it?