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    [–]Ferretman 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    This is of course false.

    The debt ceiling proposal has zero....repeat, no..cuts to social security.

    There have been proposals to raise the age to start social security to 70, and/or to allow (not force) recipients to invest part of their social security into some kind of 401K. There are rational cases to be made for either and/or both.

    Neither of those are by any definition a "cut".

    The more you know....

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      [–]Ferretman 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      You're cherry-picking from those reports; none of those are law or likely to be.

      Taxes on the wealthy is a fool's game and shows a lack of understanding of the economy. Bernie Sanders said "taxes on millionaires", until he became one--then magically he started saying "taxes on billionaires". What would you personally consider to be "the welathy"?

      If "the wealthy" (which includes Biden by the way) want to they are welcome to send extra taxes to the IRS. They have a website and everything to accept them and would gladly take their money.

      I'll bet dollars to donuts they don't exercise that option.

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        [–]Ferretman 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        You're moving the goalposts and tossing out new grievances to get mad about, not sticking to the subject. First you said Republicans want to cut social security and when that was shown to not be the case you moved to "tax the wealthy". I'm still waiting for your definition of what "the wealthy" is. We know that Bernie's, for example, is a bit "fluid".

        The Republicans have no serious proposal on the table to cut social security. As I noted, there's a case to be made that some changes do need to be made (particularly raising the active age to 70), but there's nothing being voted on. I consider such proposals no more consequential than when Biden wanted to stop all social security payments (which he has proposed at least twice).

        To speak of your new goalpost items:

        Trump's tax cuts were a good first step and of course would have been followed up. You'll be happy to hear to much of them will expire in 2024 or 2026, I believe, unless they are re-voted.

        I'll cut aid to Israel if you'll cut aid to Ukraine....fair trade?

        The "rich" don't typically get welfare, other than social security. I do actually think that's not right and such monies should not be paid, however that's not the way the law actually reads. Should it? Probably. Congress can fix that...let me know how it goes.

        Can you expand on the "tax money to charter/religious" schools assertion? I want to make sure I'm looking at the right thing.

        Stopping offshore tax havens would be an interesting move....I'd have to read more about it. I doubt you'd get what you would want though....it wouldn't happen immediately, and if there's a (say, one year) run up before implementation you'd have "the wealthy" moving all of their stuff to other countries or venues where they can't be taxed. Rather like Obama's attempt to put a "wealth tax" on construction of private yachts, the wealthy just moved their business to other countries....it got rescinded a few years later.

        I'll give you credit for engaging though, kudos.