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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's a tough time for this type of business model. Reading the article it doesn't sound like it was all that inclusive, more of an echo chamber.

“It’s been an amazing experience, connecting with so many great community members, sparking desperately needed debate, raising the blood pressure of Conservatives (that includes you, “anarcho-capitalists” and “Libertarians”), fulfilling the dream of most service workers by not having to tolerate the presence of professional class-traitors (pigs and military), and experimenting with living and working in ways that don’t enthusiastically embrace the pure misanthropy of Capitalism,” he continued.

I'm not saying that they should have been inclusive of all, after all its their business, they can do what they want. But to survive with a business plan like this you need quite a bit of goodwill. One of my favorite hippy cafes on the planet recently closed permanently after 26 years (Traditions, in Olympia, WA)... This was a place where you could go and get a cheap bowl of soup, listen to live folk music, poetry open mic, again - typical hippy life. They had a TON of community support and they weren't able to survive the pandemic, sadly. They weren't exactly inclusive of "The Man" but they also weren't intentionally antagonistic about it.

[–]LordoftheFlies 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

When you go into business intentionally looking to drive away people who might otherwise be customers, you pretty much deserve what happens when fails. And it's funny how he talks shit about those so-called professional class traitors, because I'll bet he's just like every other "ACAB" type when it comes to his person and property.

[–]Catsindahood 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

What this rerard doesn't understand is that while there might not be that many police or military that would have been interested in the cafe, there are plenty of people who have friends and loved ones who would have been interested that weren't afterwards.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

When you go into business intentionally looking to drive away people who might otherwise be customers, you pretty much deserve what happens when fails.

It's brutally hard work to keep a business (especially small non-funny-money-funded - i.e. Wall Street) viable in an open market. Now they add to that self-imposed limits on customer base? The witnessed result is the only one possible.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To a degree - but more importantly it was the wrong location.

[–]thatrightwinger 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not sure how a cafe that serves food can possibly be "anti-capitalist." Food and wait services are capital. These people were literally providing goods and services in exchange for money, so they were a capitalist "anti-capitalist" organization.

Bernie Sanders lives in three beautiful houses; George Soros literally runs hedge funds. Every socialist in North America uses money to purchase goods and services via the capitalist system while demanding that the government destroy the system that made the at least comfortable or even fabulously wealthy.

Live your policies, hypocrites!

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    [–]thatrightwinger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's literally like people who buy Che Guevara shirts. Why are you commoditizing a communist? Don't you get it that you're still literally involved in capitalism?

    [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Toronto’s supposedly ‘anti-capitalist’ cafe, The Anarchist, has announced that it would be permanently shutting down after just over a year in business.

    Anarchism is NOT ‘anti-capitalist’.
    Anarchism is NOT ‘anti-cooperative’ either.
    Some of their language sounds confused and woke - just as the article's author sounds ignorantly conservative.

    It likely had problematic management and/or situations - and floundered and failed like most startups. Their novel business model sounds like it was as lacking as apparently their community and support critically were.

    They should simply try, try again, remembering location, location, location. 190 Jarvis Street is not only right downtown in the business center of a very expensive cut-throat thriving metropolis, but Jarvis is Toronto's main prostitution street. They would have done better in an artsy, hipster, hippie, ethnic, and/or cheap neighbourhood - and Toronto certainly has no shortage of options.

    [–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Anti-Capitalist people are retards. You got business bills to pay, you got employees to pay, and you don't give things away when you run a business unless it is part of some promotion.