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It's interesting that you say that considering our generation because I disagree. I don't know many millennials so maybe you're right about that, but my experience is that gen Z is very divided politically, and a good chunk are "libtards" and another good chunk are increasingly radical conservatives. Classical liberals are becoming quite rare, I'd say.

The extremism on both sides is leading many young people to just give up on politics altogether and not care.

But I'd still say I know a lot of severe libtards. One of my middle aged female professors literally identifies as "autismgender" completely seriously and not as a joke. There was dead silence in the class when she "came out" to us. No one laughed. Yeah, she's not gen Z. I think she's probably too old to be a millennial as well.

But gen Z is asked to clap for her stunning bravery. And half of gays and lesbians id as trans or non-binary. Most of the straight students do not, but a good chunk are about to considering the volume of AGP/tranny/furry porn they openly post in the school's discord. I also know a few AGP trannies.

Maybe we have different definitions of "libtard" because the people who screech about"intersectionalism" and "fuck me or you're a racist, white supremacist bigot!!" are rare, but almost no one who isn't a conservative will dare argue with them or do anything except nod, and I think that most people don't think too much about these issues so they're probably thinking "hmm maybe this person has a point" since the ideas are new to them. People who go along with this shit are also libtards in my eyes. And that's pretty much every gen Z straight girl outside the minority of radical Christians who only come to this school to find a husband. Straight guys, I would say less than half take it fairly seriously, but they still exist.

There's really not much pushback, and the people who don't think about it much but just go along with it to be tolerant and not considered "x-phobic" by extremists tend to think everyone who disagrees is alt-right and they'll argue with you on that basis. But if you get them alone, you can get them to almost half-critically think to the point where they're not on your side, but they no longer think you're Hitler reincarnated.

People take this shit very seriously and while I'm always calm, I've been in huge blowout arguments over this where the other person yells and gets hysterical. I made someone cry over this and I was being firm but still respectful, and censoring myself to an insane degree and conceded on so many points that I don't agree with.

The mentality where they really think genocide is happening is deadly serious and real. They hold that fear within them and yet... they think it's so inevitable that there's no point in trying to look respectable at all and present themselves to the general public as anything but clowns. It's a very contentious situation and they will attempt to turn everyone against you socially but it doesn't really work because of how many people think they're a joke. And it's still possible to befriend them at the end of all this, so I wonder if they truly care that much? Or maybe they hope to change my mind and "educate" me.

It's actually fascinating engaging in this in the real world, and more people should try it because the consequences are pretty much nothing as long as you take some care with what you say to what people.

I was able to convince the mom of one of my gay friends to not panic over his desire to transition and to not blindly affirm him but to try and mend their very broken relationship. He hasn't even told her he's gay (though it's beyond obvious) and instead first demanded that she call him by "she/her" pronouns. We met out of coincidence but I was able to do some good.

And maybe we have different views on the trans situation, but it's a complicated issue and at the very least, I was able to get her to stop and think instead of succumbing to either insane side of the issue and becoming radicalized.

I think these are the sort of things that stop me from becoming hopeless enough to not care. It's possible to share your opinions in a controlled way to people irl and actually have sane and productive discussions and arguments.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, I was mainly thinking of SJWs when I said "libtards". Gen Z tends to be either moderately left or alt right. Millenials are very far left.

I have met maybe 1 or 2 transtrenders in the flesh, of all types. I know a good many classical liberals, but it's probably the people I hang out with more. There used to be a lot more of them, but in 2020 most of the younger conservatives and libertarians went alt right. And even the older ones, but the younger ones especially. I feel like the only one left.