House passes Parents Bill of Rights, as enraged Dems level wild charges against it. Right to know what’s being taught in schools and see reading materials, Right to be heard, Right to see school budgets and spending, to protect your child’s privacy, to be notified of any violent activity at school.

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[–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

because parents ALREADY have the SAME access noted in that bill.

Then there should be no problems passing it, eh?

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

It should not pass because it's toxic garbage, allowing 1 or 2 parents to shut down a school in administrative and legal difficulties - it's a legal mess:

https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-change/new-from-nea/us-vs-them-toxic-vision-parent-engagement

https://alaskabeacon.com/2023/03/09/gop-bill-mandating-federal-parents-bill-of-rights-passed-by-u-s-house-committee/

Parents have access to the same information, but not in the quick administrative micromanagement way in which the bill proposes. Those laws would effectively shut down school administration in red tape, which is why the bill has been proposed. Attacking schools in this manner part of the fascist playbook, and one of the worst decisions for our kids' futures.

[–]MuskyIndependent 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Pretty sure putting power in the hands of the parents is the exact opposite of fascism.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Fascism can only develop by means of the disruption of society. We shouldn't conflate the path to fascism with the resulting fscist state. National socialists respond to the disruption they've caused.

And as I've noted: parents already have access to their children's school plans, activities, methods &c. They ust cannot immediately require administrative responses, which the bill wants to propose.

[–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

That feels like an evasive answer.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You made a false equivalence argument conflating strategies of fascist strategies for their rise to power (inc. disruption inspiring cries for order) with fascist governance (social and polical control of the 99% by the 1%). If you'd prefer a fascist governance example, look to education reforms in fascist Italy, Spain and Germany c. 1922-45. Some examples here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z897pbk/revision/2

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00309230.2020.1825496

https://www.britannica.com/topic/education/Nazi-Germany

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/life-in-nazi-occupied-europe/controlling-everyday-life/controlling-education/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40981567

None of this is difficult to grasp. There are other papers on growing fascist attacks on the education systems in the US.

Changing the history curriculum (calling it CRT, which isn't what it is), banning books, attacking teachers and school boards with insane rants about nonsense, installing Christo-fascists on school boards, etc. If you think a member of your family has become a Marxist while at school, that seems to relate to your comment history here on Saidit, where often argue that anything left of the extreme right is communist. What's happened here is that you believe the far right propaganda about this, and you are very much in a far right minority in the US. The majority of Americans understand that banning books, removing history texts, attacking teachers and schools, and passing fascist laws that push a far right agenda is indeed a growing fascist threat to the American way of living.

[–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

with fascist governance (social and polical control of the 99% by the 1%)

That sounds exactly like Democrats. Did you see the post here about the censorship on the r/WorldNews post regarding the Trans athlete ban? By censoring and even outright banning anyone with an opposing view to their ideology, they create a false consensus where it appears nobody disagrees, and further indoctrinates unwitting people into their ideology. It's very insidious. I don't see that happening on the right, you're clearly on the side of the fascists.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You might know that I and many others at Saidit and in the Democratic party don't want former men, or also women born with penises, competing against women athletes, nor do we agree with all of the policies of a website that has 50 million active daily users. In Reddit's defence, they cannot be seen to unfairly discriminate against minority groups who pay lawyers to send cease & desist letters to Reddit's ISP. Reddit also likely complies with EU rules and other forms of legislation that we might not like.

But the general content policy of a website with 50 million users is unrelated to fascist statecraft, or any other form of statecraft (unless we're to discuss the nuances of this, and Saidit doesn't do nuance).

And we agree that numerous mods on Saidit are themselves fascist assholes, and for example prohibit criticism of Israel, Pakistan, China, India and other fascist countries. But that too is unrelated to statecraft.

The recent passing of HR5 is indeed fascist statecraft. It's meant to create additional difficulties for schools, specifically to make access to a good education more difficult, AND to reduce working conditions in order to hire teachers without MA degrees who can be paid less, AND especially to create disruption among the peasants while the GOP (and 2 or 3 traitor Dems) pass more laws that create additional wealth inequality, gleaning much more from the 99%.

Living and work standards for school teachers have dropped exponentially under GOP-controlled congresses. Just one example - of many - of the GOP destruction of the American Dream in the past 40 years.

[–]MuskyIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I must counter your statement that the recent passing of HR5 is fascist statecraft. The Equality Act aims to provide protections for LGBTQ+ individuals against discrimination in areas such as employment, housing, and education. It seeks to ensure that everyone, regardless of their gender identity or sexual orientation, has equal opportunities and protections under the law.

Furthermore, your assertion that the GOP is solely responsible for the decline in living and working standards for school teachers is overly simplistic. There are various factors at play, including budget cuts, changes in education policies, and the impact of technology on the teaching profession. While there may be legitimate criticisms of the GOP's approach to education, it is unfair to attribute all of the issues in the education system to them.

In conclusion, while it is important to address concerns about transgender athletes and online policies, it is important to consider the nuances and complexities of political issues such as the passing of HR5 and the state of the education system. Blanket statements and oversimplifications do not accurately capture the full picture.

This response has been brought to you by AI. Even the computer thinks you're wrong.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We don't have time for nuance REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yo - home-schnitzel - are you referring to the HR5 Equality Act? That's a Dem bill, passed by Dems in 2021:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_(United_States)

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/equality-act-passes-house/index.html

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr5

The recent HR5 Parents Bill of Rights is pure evil:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/5

I'll respond to the other stuff, but want to first ask about this.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s the only answer communist groomers have.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Any society that is disrupted by criminalizing child abuse deserves to be disrupted, and will be disrupted.