60 percent of Likely Voters Agree “Climate Change Has Become a Religion.” “Climate change has become a religion that ‘actually has nothing to do with the climate’ and is really about power and control.”

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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll have to come back tomorrow with some better denialist shit. Thanks for trying to reach me, I think?

No problem. It's been 15 years since I was getting into climate change arguments regularly, so there's probably some more recent papers.

I lot of the denialist stuff seems to have not changed in that time though.

his shit from IPCC is interesting, one of the models predicts that global warming will correct itself https://images.theconversation.com/files/63411/original/kx8srfsn-1414769757.jpg

RCPs are emission scenarios. RCP 2.6 requires that carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions start declining by 2020 and go to zero by 2100. We're already 2023, and CO2 emissions are not declining. They're still increasing except for the CoVID blip in 2020.

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Apparently none of the western world is increasing their C02 output? It looks very positive/not scary ever since 1980 or 1990.

How do you go from this chart to California saying I'm no longer allowed to have gas powered lawn tools?

Maybe this is the chart Trump was using :D

https://ourworldindata.org/exports/annual-co-emissions-by-region_v40_850x600.svg

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do you go from this chart to California saying I'm no longer allowed to have gas powered lawn tools?

Because to get atmospheric CO2 to stop increasing you need to cut emissions by 80% or 90% from 1990 levels.

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Meh, that seems awfully extreme. Getting Asians to put out their tire fires and planting some extra trees would probably do it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You need to use more natural rubber, and less synthetic rubber polymers in the tyres. Then they can burn them to their heart's content.

Planting trees only works if the tree never dies, and never burns.

And even then it only sequesters carbon while it's growing. A mature forest is a ghg source, because it takes in CO2, but releases both CO2 and CH4. And CH4 is a lot more global earthing for the C than CO2.