Alex Jones claims they want to take his expensive cat because he's bankrupt. "This is Mushu," Jones said, cradling the animal in his arms. He estimated the cat was worth around $2,000. "They were very serious about the cat and its value, and they may want the cat" he said. He claimed harassment.

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[–]LordoftheFlies 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm frankly amazed at the damages. It's an absolutely ridiculous amount and there's no way that he can possibly pay it. While I'm not a fan of his, I absolutely believe that this sort of excessive result is meant entirely to stifle him and ensure that he can never again find a venue in which to share his opinions.

[–]Drewski 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Yeah, the whole thing was a Kafkaesque show trial was intended to stifle free speech and intimidate others into silence. Alex Jones did not harass the parents of the Sandy Hook kids, and many other things about him were misrepresented during the trial. Tom Woods and Robert Barnes had a great podcast on this:

Tom Woods Show Ep. 2219: The Absurd Alex Jones Trials

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Robert Barnes is not a credible source on this and I'll tell you why.

When Infowars first got sued, Barnes was the lawyer representing them.

He did such a poor job that they got all kinds of sanctions and defaults.

Last year the Infowars corporate representative Brittany Paz confirmed that Infowars are considering suing Robert Barnes for malpractice. She had to reveal this under oath because any future income from a potential case against Barnes would need to be part of the bankruptcy.

So it's absolutely in Barnes' personal interest to go on podcasts and shows talking about how bad Alex got "railroaded" or whatever.

He is not a credible source because his legal knowledge amounted to malpractice - and now the more people he can convince that Alex got shafted, the better his financial outlook.

Alex did not get shafted. He did get a fair shake of the law. He did maliciously lie about the parents and - had he wanted to put up a defense, he could have done so. But he never put up a defense and so the trials were about damages only

https://youtube.com/@kasterlynchfarrarballllp7305

[–]Drewski 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Sounds like hearsay to me. If you have any credible sources I'll check them out. Regardless I still recommend the episode, he makes a lot of salient points. Just the fact that Jones was fined that massive amount of money for making a claim, true or not (which he later retracted), shows the insanity of the current legal system.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

https://youtube.com/@kasterlynchfarrarballllp7305

Enjoy

Nothing insane about the amounts awarded.

https://saidit.net/s/politics/comments/aftl/alex_jones_claims_they_want_to_take_his_expensive/11b2z

[–]Drewski 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

You just linked to 30 hours of videos from the Infowars disposition. I was asking about a source for Robert Barnes not being credible.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Here is Paz's deposition

https://youtu.be/YIczy1avGDs

1:51:36 - the list of lawyers on the case. Wait til you hear her reaction to Barnes name coming up. It's hilarious

1:56:21 - the topic of legal malpractice as an asset

But if you really were interested in that case - the channel is the one of the law firms for the parents. The videos are all Infowars under deposition. You can learn an awful lot about their inner workings and how they ended up owing 1 billion. It's also quite entertaining to watch the morons squirm

[–]milkmender11 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Well my leg is warm and wet and smells of ammonia, but you're telling me it's raining, so it must be rain. I should have brought an umbrella! Never can predict these sudden showers.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know what you mean here, sorry. What are you trying to indicate. Are you saying I'm wrong about Infowars corporate representative saying under oath in deposition that the company are considering suing Barnes for malpractice?

[–]milkmender11 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm saying that I feel a warm, odorous liquid oozing down my leg, as you stand directly adjacent to me with your fly unzipped. Your finger, however, points to the sky. I do not see clouds nor is my head wet.

[–]BISH 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Robert Barnes is not a credible source on this and I'll tell you why.

I have to laugh at your endless disinformation peddling. It's bad comedy.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wtf are you talking about? As I linked already below.

Here is Infowars (free speech systems LLC) corporate representative Brittany Paz's deposition

https://youtu.be/YIczy1avGDs YouTube

1:51:36 - the list of lawyers on the case. Wait til you hear her reaction to Barnes name coming up. It's hilarious

1:56:21 - the topic of legal malpractice as an asset

have to laugh at your endless disinformation peddling. It's bad comedy

Oh then it's going to be really easy for you to share the joke and point out what you think I got wrong

[–]Bonn1770Republican Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The "trail" was like a Chinese struggle session with the prosecutor and judge screaming at Jones to admit his sins. An absolutely disgusting display, the judge should be removed and the prosecutor disbarred. If anything this kangaroo court shows just how scared they are of people waking up to their lies.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The damages were decided by the jury.

It was up to the lawyers on both sides to convince the juries.

Here's how the juries were convinced to award this billion dollar amount -

  1. They were shown evidence concerning the reach of Alex's lies (and you're here as evidence to that)

  2. They were shown how Alex tailors his show's conspiracy content to his products and revenue. They heard from Alex's dad and business manager that Infowars work out which of Alex's rants bring in the most money, and try to replicate that

  3. They were shown how Sandy Hook lies in the Google analytics led to the biggest bump in clicks and revenue ever. They were shown how Infowars' rep Brittany Paz lied (including on the stand, in court, infront of the jury) about whether the company uses Google analytics, because the truth is so damaging to Alex.

  4. They were shown how Alex specifically directed his unhinged callers towards the families, including one guy who Alex caused to interrupt the family annual remembrance event for the murdered teacher. Also they were shown how Alex sent his employee Dan Bidondi to harass the families and victims, personally and directly.

  5. The judge explained how Connecticut law works. The jury had to work out the dollar amount of damage caused to each of the dozen or so plaintiffs. Then multiply that if they think it was deliberate (which Alex's dad's testimony proved). I am fuzzy on the law, but with a dozen or so plaintiffs each getting a slice of the hundreds of millions of dollars that Alex directly made from maliciously lying about them....it adds up to a billion.

If Alex wanted to defend himself, he could have. Instead he dissembled for six years of legal sanctions and defaults. They lied in deposition and on the stand. They rotated through twenty odd lawyers, before setting on Reynal in Texas (for whom this was his first civil case) and Norm in Connecticut (a failed stand-up comedian whose best joke involves lowering his trousers and shouting the N word).

There was no hope for Alex. Because he was guilty and knew it. So he fucked around for six years until finding out.

[–]dicknipples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Excellent points, as usual, in all of these responses from you. And this specific response is one of the best on Saidit. I wish we could all appreciate the importance of holding people accountable for the severe damage they've caused. And I'm not referencing the occasional racist outburst or unpopular opinion, which of course should be protected free speech. Alex and his associates made millions by selling disinformation and hatred of many kinds, for years. He's merely one of the tips of many extremist talking head iceburgs profiting from a disinformation promotion market. May they get what they deserve, and their little cats too.

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fuck those damn crisis actors! No children were killed at Sandy Hook. It wasn't even an active school at the time.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

"Crisis actors want to grab me by the pussy" - Alex Jones

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You should do stand-up, Jet.

https://www.sorryisaidthat.biz/p/recommended-gigs-for-london-open

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wait you mean if the court takes your assets they can take all your assets? shock!

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a cat named Mushu. I miss you you big fur ball.