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[–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sorry, you can't harm yourself. No suicide. No "mercykilling" which morphed into murder by the state of elderly, people who went to hospital. No abortion

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You know what? Suicide may be selfish but so are you if you think this way.

[–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Suicide is objectively a mortal sin. A mortal sin lands you in hell. You're a naturalist.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Objectively" according to your subjective definition. And it lands you in the place we're already in.

Obviously there is a real morality. But that doesn't mean you are always right about it. What makes you so superior that you can never be wrong and should basically own everyone because you're perfect? Isn't that just the excuse every human being uses in its quest for power?

[–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Objectively refers to grave matter. A mortal sin must be grave matter, but the person must have knowledge and consent to committing it. No one can judge last 2. So getting an abortion is mortal sin, objectively. A woman might have been tied down and forced... She committed no sin