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[–]tiny-brown-mug 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm torn. I definitely feel like no one under 18 should be given opposite-sex hormones or surgery, but 26? I would say, either allow folks to get hormones and eventually surgery at 18, or just ban hormones and bottom surgery all together.

Given how messed up the results of bottom surgery often are (pain, wounds that never heal, weird complications, drainage), maybe no one should be getting this surgery. You can't do to the human body what these surgeons are claiming, anyway. And the ones who regret the surgery regret the $#@! out of it.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Some people really do need it. The problem is false advertising.

I'm going to tell you what I've been telling everyone else: you disagreeing with something isn't grounds to criminalize it. I thought we knew this and were better than this. Not anymore apparently.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But if the surgery is innately harmful and the tissue in question isn't infected or harboring a tumor, why cut into it? And as the issue is with the person's perception of their naturally male or female body, this seems more like a psychological issue that needs therapy, not a physical one that needs surgery.

I get that this may be a sensitive issue for you, Vulptex. And you have my sympathy and my concern. But honestly, man, look at the de-trans testimonies. And the things that can go wrong with this surgery are startling. Life-changing, but in all the wrong ways. The ones who regret it, regret it big-time, and may even consider killing themselves.

I'm on the fence. I'm not sure that this should be outlawed, but I really don't think a kid should be able to get access to this stuff. If they're not old enough to get a tattoo, get married, consent to sex with an adult, or go to war, they shouldn't be old enough to go on T or E or get top or bottom surgery.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not even the point. We want to make everyone under 26 a minor now? When does it end? Even 18 seems a little old to me. I have zero doubt that this is just a frog boiling slowly until we're all under the absolute authority of the elites.