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[–]UncleWillard56 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It was nice to hear it discussed, but both panel members were conservative so you know he's preaching to the choir. I hate that it's the parents' fault, though. First the schools tell you you need to be more involved in your child's education. Sure, they're right, parents should be involved. But out of the other side of their mouths, you have teachers who are trying to indoctrinate kids and tell them not to discuss it with your parents. And when shit hits the fan and you show up at the school board and complain, you're a domestic terrorist. This wasn't just the school board, but the fucking DOJ under Biden saying this! Public school is dead. If you can do private, do it. Otherwise look for a good Charter school.

[–]MuskyIndependent[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We need to fix the public schools, not everyone can do charter or private education, and homeschooling is inadequate both in educational value and due to its lack of proper socialization. I don't think public education is something we can afford to give up on.

I didn't watch the episode yet, probably check it out here in a sec. I like Maher, he went a little left wing wacko for a bit, but he's now a voice of reason amongst Democrats.

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Public schools do not provide proper socialization. In fact, they usually prevent it.

[–]MuskyIndependent[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see how, a graduate of public school has spent twelve plus years being around thousands of other people and learning how to interact with them. Home schooled people are exposed to a significantly smaller population, and I think because they tend to have a higher overall quality in their social group, are not always prepared for what people can be like.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can easily rectify that through community activities, sports, church; there's a plethora of ways to deal with that. Some public schools do very well. My kids went to a great elementary school that was very diverse. Within a year after the last one left, it sunk to rock bottom. They fired the principal because of the low test scores, though he had successfully navigated that school for decades. I'll give you three guesses as to how the demographics changes, first two don't count.

I remember the last public school function as very different from the first. First, everyone sat in their seats and let the kids do their thing. We all got our pics and had a great time. Last time? A whole slew of people were late and didn't want to sit in the back so they milled in the aisles. One guy marched right up front to stand directly in front of his kid with a camera to film them and blocked everyone else. The principal even had to stop the performance and lecture everyone to behavior better than their kids were. Last one for me and thank god it was the last kid. Charter school the next year and it was everything I'd hoped it could be.