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[–]RandumbZer0 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Fuck that! I'm not Anti-Vax, just Anti-Bullshit & that's all their experiemental COVID 'Vaccines' ever were.

[–]safasdfasdf 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

They aren't 'experiemental'

mRNA vaccines have been around for decades; the first report on their use was in 1993 (Induction of virus-specific cytotoxic T lymphocytes in vivo by liposome-entrapped mRNA). They haven’t been widely used because their advantages (rapid customizable development) were outweighed by their disadvantages (difficulty in manufacturing and distribution). Obviously, in the face of a fast-moving pandemic, their advantage in rapid development makes them very attractive and the manufacturing and distribution problems can be handled.

Where mRNA vaccines have been used is to treat cancers. That needs highly customizable, individualized, small-scale development, and needs to be safe for use in medically fragile people - ideally suited for the technique. Example from 2009: Direct Injection of Protamine-protected mRNA: Results of a Phase 1/2 Vaccination Trial in Metastatic Melanoma Patients.

This sort of use means that there’s actually a reasonable amount of reasonably long-term studies in their use. Here’s a review from 2012:

mRNA vaccines combine desirable immunological properties with an outstanding safety profile and the unmet flexibility of genetic vaccines. … Because any protein can be expressed from mRNA without the need to adjust the production process, mRNA vaccines also offer maximum flexibility with respect to development. Taken together, mRNA presents a promising vector that may well become the basis of a game-changing vaccine technology platform.

Developing mRNA-vaccine technologies

Another review, from 2013, emphasizes their safety:

In recent years, mRNA vaccines have emerged as a safe and potent approach for the induction of cellular immune responses.

Challenges and advances towards the rational design of mRNA vaccines

As does a more recent review, from 2019:

During the last two decades, there has been broad interest in RNA-based technologies for the development of prophylactic and therapeutic vaccines. Preclinical and clinical trials have shown that mRNA vaccines provide a safe and long-lasting immune response in animal models and humans.

Advances in mRNA Vaccines for Infectious Diseases

So bottom line:

  • these aren’t new
  • there’s lots of info showing they’re safe
  • the reason they weren’t widely used before had nothing to do with their safety
  • they are ideally suited as the first response to a fast-moving pandemic, and not as well suited as the routine approach to an accustomed long-term situation

[–]BISH 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

/u/safasdfasdf is clearly a pharma shill

[–]Bridgeheadprod 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m sorry I could waste my time reading all that bullshit. Experimental is releasing it to the world, and then withdrawing some from market because of unexpected side effects. If you think they’ve been around a long time, but didn’t catch those side effects in that time, you’re a useful idiot

[–]Kephart 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They aren't new............except that it is new, in that its the first widespread use of its kind among humans. There's lots of info showing they're safe.......let me know when the 10yr studies of this specific vax are complete. The reason they weren't widely used before was because they don't work. Last point..........So there shouldn't be any need to include this in routine childhood or annual vaccinations eh? Excellent.

[–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God bless Kephart. This package is new, terrifying. Are parts of it used before? Maybe. The entire package looks like a depopulation plan. "If we do real good on vaccines..." Gates at terrifying Ted talk... The carbon print will go down

[–]RandumbZer0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tell that nonsense to all the people who died from or were injured by them.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Thanks Scott! Props to Scott and anyone else who admits it when they were wrong.

[–]BISH 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

He did. Over, and over.

He's dignified in his concession.

[–]Steinb2 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

We did it. The fight is finally over.

[–]safasdfasdf 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He's literally being sarcastic the full-time. Really highlights antivaxxers critical thinking ability.

[–]Bonn1770Republican Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

antivaxxers

Eat a bullet, kike.

[–]Bonn1770Republican Party 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Fuck amnesty for these assholes. They wanted us dead for refusing the clot shot. They wanted us unemployed and shunned from society. These are the people that broke the social contract and they don't get to fucking whine about the fallout now. I hope they all get prion disease from the vax.

[–]JohnRaymond 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No amnesty if they coerced deathvax

[–]doginventer 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Humble-brags long and hard and then tries to say we were right but for the wrong reasons.

[–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did he advocate coercion of deathvax? Then he needs trial. If he didn't, Then he's good

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    [–]MuskyIndependent 8 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

    Don't get worked up, you don't want to give yourself a heart attack. 🧦

    [–]BISH 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Myocar-died-of-the-vaxx

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Wake up and smell the facts. The vaxes is whackzes.

    [–]LordoftheFlies 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    What the fuck did we actually win though?

    As one of the top replies points out, we were effectively unpersoned for our refusal to submit ourselves to a treatment that was being pushed with suspicious and militant insistance by a number of people we rightly have reasons to be skeptical of.

    The people doing the insisting haven't actually admitted that they were wrong in any meaningful way, and the ones at or near the top are undoubtedly scuttling off to find cover (especially the ones who managed to get money out this mess) from the impending shitstorm.

    We're stuck with a label that's entirely wrong (Adams even uses it, repeatedly, in his little concession video) because of our stance.

    Oh, and lets not forget all of the people suddenly dropping dead (for absolutely no reason at all, and definitely not for any reason connected to a vaccine, no sir), some of which are undoubtedly going include family or friends of those who didn't get their poke.

    Oh, but Scott Adams told us we won. Well whoop-dee-fucking-doo, isn't that nice.

    [–]BISH 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    What the fuck did we actually win though?

    Pure blood.

    [–]Youdundeeditnah 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    maybe ... search spike protein and shedding. no guarantee they didn't get us by proxy.

    [–]Alphix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, brother in law gave me a hug in January 2022, I coughed for 2 weeks.

    [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    POST OF WEEK

    [–]Canbot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The people haven't won until the criminals in power are punished for their crimes.

    [–]cisheteroscumNational Justice Party 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Pureblood checking in ✅️

    [–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    White Power.

    [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Bless his heart.

    [–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    He'll need that blessing and every other one he can get for it, favorable divine interest might well be the only keeping it beating at this point.

    [–]chottohen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I always thought Adams was a shill and this did not change my mind.

    [–]EddieC 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Logic tell us that all accounts allowed to gain a large following on Corp-owned media must be shills
    e.g. 10K+ on Twitter including the account that posted the tweet
     
    Purpose...

    [–]1Icemonkey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I’m always a winner because I am anti-jew!

    [–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Clott Adams

    [–]Rah 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Its only a victory after divine justice is brought upon the victims. Those who refused won nothing, but those who didnt lost a lot.