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[–]pandorasbox 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (37 children)

There never was a virus.. don't get me wrong, viruses are a thing, but covid is 109% a hoax, it is a political weapon.

https://rumble.com/v1wcs7o-died-suddenly-2022-full-documentary.html

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

There never was a virus.. don't get me wrong, viruses are a thing, but covid is 109% a hoax, it is a political weapon.

Oh, FFS.

They've sequenced dozens of versions of the fucking thing. It's killed millions of people. You can buy test kits that detect the antigens you produce from exposure to it at the local chemist.

https://rumble.com/v1wcs7o-died-suddenly-2022-full-documentary.html

If you believe that, you need to work on your fact checking and your critical thinking.

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

It's killed millions of people.

No it has not. Excess mortality statistics prove that covid did not kill people, but the vaccines have.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

Excess mortality statistics prove that covid did not kill people, but the vaccines have.

Oh do they? I didn't know that. Can you explain it a bit?

How can you work out from excess mortality statistics which excess deaths are from the disease and which from the vaccines?

[–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

CDC, FDA showed years of utter bad faith. Criminal doesn't get it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

CDC, FDA showed years of utter bad faith.

What's your rationale here?

Criminal doesn't get it.

Which criminal doesn't get what?

[–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

They had abysmal reporting system for one

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Had? So the current one is good?

How do you get from reporting system to "years of utter bad faith"?

[–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Ok, we' all give you 5th grade teaching position to edit papers

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

To sum up, you think that the CDC and FDA showed years of utter bad faith, because they had "abysmal reporting system".

And you've got no capacity to clarify that at all.

We might have to leave it there then mate.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Timing. During the entire time that we were being told that millions of people were dying from covid the excess mortality did not go up. That means that there was no noticable increase in death from covid.

The the vaccines came on the market and excess mortalitu spiked and has been high ever since.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

During the entire time that we were being told that millions of people were dying from covid the excess mortality did not go up.

A lot of places were above normal death rate, even in 2020 before the vaccines, weren't they?: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?time=earliest..2020-12-13&country=MEX~RUS~ZAF~GBR~DEU~USA~BRA~EGY

The the vaccines came on the market and excess mortalitu spiked and has been high ever since.

There would still be some people dying of the disease though wouldn't there? COVID didn't disappear when the vaccines came on the market. In a lot of places it didn't peak until the omicron variant was wandering around, and by then most of the lockdowns had finished because most people were vaccinated.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

A lot of places

No. I'm sure you could cherry pick some data, but that is not true for "a lot of places".

There would still be some people dying of the disease though wouldn't there?

There are always people dying. There should have been more people dying before the vaccine than after. In fact that was what all the news media were reporting. Yet the data shows this is a lie.

The death rate spiked with the rollout of the vaccine. It did NOT spike druing the "worst pandemic in modern history".

In a lot of places it didn't peak until the omicron

Not true at all. That is not a correlation the data shows. And besides that Omicron is by any rational estimate far milder than delta and the original strain. That it came out during the vaccine rollout does not mean we can pretend that it was omicron causing the spike in death.

The data shows it was the vaccine. And logic backs it up.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No. I'm sure you could cherry pick some data, but that is not true for "a lot of places".

I was trying to get relatively large countries with a reasonable geographic spread when I chose Mexico, Russia, South Africa, United Kingdom, Germany, United States, Brazil and Egypt. I wasn't cherry picking: Although I did avoid Australia because lockdowns there wipe covid out of the country between October 2020 and July 2021.

And they do all seem to have positive excess mortality on average for 2020.

How would you select a sample of countries where it's not true, without cherry picking?

There are always people dying.

I certainly accept that. What's the relevance?

There should have been more people dying before the vaccine than after.

That's not obvious to me, because most countries were doing fairly heavy lockdowns before the vaccine, and the more contagious strains didn't appear until after the vaccines.

So I guess that my question is how do you calculate that there should have been more people dying before the vaccine. In particular, how many more should there have been, according to your calculations?

Yet the data shows this is a lie.

Right. But which data are you looking at that shows this to be a lie?

The death rate spiked with the rollout of the vaccine.

I don't see that. But lets look at your data.

Not true at all. That is not a correlation the data shows.

Okay. Show me your data.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

the more contagious strains didn't appear until after the vaccines.

More contagious does not mean more dangerous. Every new strain is milder than the last. Which makes your belif that new strains cause more death completely absurd.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So I guess that my question is how do you calculate that there should have been more people dying before the vaccine.

If the vaccine did anything at all, be it reduce spread or reduce symptoms, the logically fewer people would die after it was administered.

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    [–]JohnRaymond 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm very sorry. Covid was s sham. The deathvax will cause even more carnage as time goes by. Satanic

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    [–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh! That settled it! Fact checkers. They are whores and traitors

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      [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I didn't know that health was measured in %.

      You said she was almost dead. I sympathised with your almost loss. Now that the numbers are in: I'm 90% sorry for your 90% loss.

      It is an anecdote. A study with one person, not randomly selected, not blinded and with no control group is not a trial.

      [–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      Yeah man it's killed like bazillions and gigagillions of people bro. Don't ya know? Man this guy is stupid huh? I bet he even upvotes himself.

      [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Probably between 7 and 13 million, bro:

      Just How Do Deaths Due to COVID-19 Stack Up?

      [–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Yeah bro. You're smart. Fuck these idiots. I upvoted you, make sure you hit it with those alts, only the cool kids upvote themselves. I didn't click on that, I only do what Don Lemon tells me to do.

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

      Believing heavily in the Left/Right paradigm keeps you ignorant of the Tyranny/Freedom conundrum.

      [–]1Icemonkey 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Wow. Well said!

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      Except the left is 'A bit' more into the tyranny stage. A lot bit. They are the ones actually doing the fascist things. They are why we are where we are with political correctness. 'You can't say 'he'. You can't have gas stoves! You can't have the 'greasy' fries because they are 'bad' for you so you have to have the 'healthy' oil that is boring. You can't turn beds over because you could get hurt! Gotta make 'playgrounds' secure. Can't have Mcdonalds Play Place that's too dangerous!!!

      Can't have hot coffee it could spill! Can't have windows without child safety latches a little child could get hurt!!!!

      [–]JohnRaymond 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      The left has gone nuts. Tyrants.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I've noticed that on all forums now. Even 'gaming' forums are all left wing politics no longer about the actual games. Whatever happened to 'My body my choice?'

      [–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Nanny state.

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Except the left is 'A bit' more into the tyranny stage. A lot bit.

      Only presently. Look through history...
      NeoLibs and NeoCons swap extremism in their orgy of chaos.

      Two wings of the same fucking war hawk business party.

      [–]pandorasbox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Divided, you will fall.

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Not if ZZZtheyZZZ nuke us first.

      [–]SoCo 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      The vaccines were supposed to roll out, but there was a last minute stall, by Fauci, with a weak excuse making you think it was to ensure Trump couldn't take credit. The first thing Biden said is that you are invincible with the vaccines and can go travel anywhere without restrictions or masks and spread like wild fire....and they did. The big city covid virus, plaguing shit-hole democrat urbanites, then spread to all reaches of rural America as well, killing off many times more than it would have, without the infectious spread of the vaccinated.

      Covid truly is the pandemic of the vaccinated.

      [–]Pokeindafckingeye 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Lil slow..but y'all starting to get it

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      It amuses me when the left whine about censorship whenever it's political time but at the same time they have the microphone keys to cut our voices off.

      [–]rubberbiscuit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I really wish Trump had been able to win (I believe he did win but cheated out of it) just to see if blue states would have remained closed even to this day.

      [–]WoodyWoodPecker 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      If Trump won't there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine or a bad economy or high inflation and high gas prices.

      Smurfs (blue people) ruin everything.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I think he (Putin) may have still tried anyways because of how senile he is. The Russians are talking of assassinating's him and he has said he is 'retiring' so I guess word got to him somehow from the food chain.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I feel like he would've caused the left to all shoot themselves.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      When you allow yourself to avoid science and logical explanations, it opens up so many interesting questions.

      Like, why do they wait for the sun to come up in the morning before making it light out? What are they trying to hide?

      Or, why do they say gravity is real and then get on airplanes? Mysterious.

      Why did they wait until four years had passed before even starting a general election against trump? They knew they wouldn't win an election during 2016-19 so they waited until 2020.

      Man, when you allow yourself to ignore logic, it just opens up so so many interesting questions about the nwo

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

      That's what the left did during Covid. Absolutely ZERO discussion allowed and most people banned if they dared voice their concerns other then repeat what the MSM said. In other words they have the microphone kill switches.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

      Yeah the left ignored sense and logic when they insisted we follow the science...sure thing buddy retard

      Edit and of course. You cannot try and say "the left" are bad for doing something which you yourself are guilty of.

      How many sensible explanations for lifting restrictions have you ignored in your insistence that it's trump-related? It's moronic and especially so that you'd follow up to insist someone else is bad for doing exactly that

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

      when they insisted we follow the science

      IFIFY:
      when they insisted we trust the $cienti$m

      [–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      My goodness, just look at all the silly wordgames you're playing just to avoid acknowledging the issue here. The issue is that OP will do just about anything to avoid checking the answer to the question in his post title.

      Put aside your dumb games and just take four seconds to think. Why IS OP so averse to actually checking the answer to his posed question. Is it because he enjoys it more as a fun internet fictional narrative? Or is he just malfunctional as a person? What do you think the answer is, why does OP require himself to go to great lengths to avoid the answer to the question in his post title?

      Like, even you Jason are guilty of it. You've come quite far down the chain of nested comments. At some point you were at the top of the page and saw OP's posed question .

      Didn't you think, "huh that seems like an easy one to answer if you were really interested in objective reality instead of fun internet narratives"

      Did you think that?

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      seems like an easy one to answer

      I did answer it.
      " Believing heavily in the Left/Right paradigm keeps you ignorant of the Tyranny/Freedom conundrum. "

      Meanwhile, you offer word salads to a carnivore.

      [–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Well then you're an idiot too for thinking there are agents of tyranny behind public health measures. If the highest powers in the land are tyrannical then why the fuck can I walk around freely in 2023.

      The answer to OP's question is based in rationality and data. Not superstition and conspiracy

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      Your freedoms are being eroded as we speak.

      Masks, lockdowns, mandates, and surveillance are medical tyranny, unleashed by the ruling class as fifth generation warfare upon humanity, intentionally engineered to hasten global food crises, economic collapse, mass crippling health harms, and exterminations to depopulate the useless eaters and centralize more power and control.

      I'm sorry you're living in denial and too blind to see that.

      Many of us knew this was coming.
      https://CorbettReport.com/bigoil/

      [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Oh it's the fifth gen of warfare, the one where they carry out 9/11 and then forget to use it to put americans in camps. Then then cause 2008 and forget to crash the dollar. Then they cause covid and forget that everyone was supposed to be locked down and masked because of it. That's the fifth generation? Wow the fourth must have been really shitty if this is the fifth. Tell me more about the numbering. Will there be a sixth? Why aren't they doing the sixth generation now? Why still do this shitty fifth? Why not skip straight to seventh

      [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      9/11 was a license to unleash the War of Terror in many nations and set up the surveillance state.

      2008 was no insignificant thing.

      They are currently building more concentration camps around the world. There's no shortage in Canada.

      Fifth-generation warfare 5GW - propaganda and information warfare to accomplish strategic, operational, and tactical objectives, without measurable damage that the target can identify. Importantly in 5GW the target may not even know it has been attacked, thus the target has already lost that battle.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_of_warfare

      If you can't see the propaganda - you are the target.
      Like most sheeple.
      If you can see the propaganda, it's not aimed at you.
      That's how it works.

      You're just a nay-saying timesuck and possibly a paid shit disturber.
      You can't be this daft for real.

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