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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Can't force the carbon economy on society when 90% of Co2 production is eliminated and the carbon footprint bullshit falls apart.

The entire point of carbon credits is to make it so the poor have to sell their carbon credits to the rich, therby participating in the oppression that will restrict their activities. By agreeing to that transaction, they agree to be barred from the freedom of normal activities and are psychologically far less likely to fight back.

[–]Ehhhhhh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And there are some VERY eager to see the carbon markets..

[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm waiting to see how they fuck up fusion because it would be so cheap as to eliminate a lot of big energy.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All mainstream attempts are designed to fail.
The latest laser based fusion system did not generate energy at all. There just a bit more energy coming out than laser light came in. But to generate the laser light, 100x more energy was needed. For some reason this is not in the science news.

The solar physics one which they are based is also wrong. But I have seen some alternative versions that can create a full functional fusion reactor in your garage.
The most mainstream one is focus fusion, which uses a linear plasma stream and magnetic focus to create a concentration.

A more advanced one is Safire project, which just uses a strong electrical current in a plasma to generate fusion. Very similar to a solar flare. Their products are also the same as from the sun. And it looks like a small sun. Because of the similarities with solar physics and the experimental results, I find this approach very promising. The electrical forces appear to change the nuclear reactions in a way that is not well understood by mainstream, so there is a lot of resistance from the mainstream. But we also know that mainstream Quantum Electrodynamics was proven in mainstream to be based on a lie.

But is this on purpose, or because theoretical science is like a religion? I don't know exactly. But from the CIA and nuclear research insiders, there are rumors that important nuclear discoveries are being kept secret.

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    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Making a sustainable fusion reaction is hard though. Mostly because you need to start a chain reaction of sorts, and it runs hot as all fuck. The H bombs used a regular Plutonium A-bomb to get the energy needed to start the fusion reaction and you can see from the videos of that they basically make a mini sun that vaporizes everything nearby.

    You can't stick that in a bottle. The amount of energy you need to ram atoms together is huge. Once you do it at any sort of scale the amount of energy you get out is basically impossible to control.

    They're trying to find ways to do it at lower temperatures that can be contained, cold fusion, but that's easier said than done. I think eventually someone will figure out an efficient way to do it. But the whole process is gonna be pretty complicated to get anything useful from it.

    Stars manage it because of gravity. The sun stays together only because it's gravity is so massive that it can hold the explosion in a kind of homeostasis which keeps the core hot and keeps the reaction going. When stars run out of fuel they shrink which makes the core hotter and fuses heavier and heavier shit until eventually the whole thing converts most of it's mass into iron which it can't maintain an exothermic reaction with and the star implodes and either breaks physics by imploding faster than light creating a black hole which is essentially a star "frozen" in place because the universe can't hack it, or it doesn't and you get an explosion that can be see from even distant galaxies due to how fucking huge it is.

    So trying to recreate that on human scales just is quite difficult. It's not easy.

    Fission is pretty simple in comparison and we already basically have nearly free unlimited energy if we build those, they're just expensive to start up and maintain but they'll pay for themselves in the long run. Hell children have managed to build fission reactors in their garages much to the changrin of the government. It's a much simpler process. Since of course, breaking apart shit that already was fused is easier than fusing shit.

    The amount of energy we need to spend to not only fuse the hydrogen but to maintain a Controllable reaction is so great it's extremely difficult to make that process cost effective. Like it's easy to fuse the shit, but the first human made fusion reactions literally needed to be triggered with nukes. You can't go setting off nukes in a power plant.

    [–]handbananasrevenge 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    “Climate change” measures have always been about power and control. Nothing else.

    [–]Hel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    But there’s no way we could possibly prevent the extreme human error that occurred with much less safe reactors nearly 40 years ago or not build plants in tectonicly active regions/tsunami flood plains

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      [–]Hel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Actually.. you just missed the obvious sarcasm, but I’m glad you agree nuclear energy is safe

      [–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I mean before the war Chernobyl was basically a tourist attraction. Not that it's not dangerous still but the danger is greatly exaggerated.

      I remember watching some Netflix show called "Dark Tourist" the guy is on some bus towards Fukushima and freaking the fuck out before he turns around and goes back because the "excessive radiation" was something like 0.1 milisilverts or something like that and the guy was like "omg numbers I don't understand! Turn this bus around fight now!" And all the other paid actors that were supposed to be "tourists" were like "yeah it's too dangerous let's go back!".

      As if someone who has paid thousands of dollars on a trip to the otherside of the world to go see a nuclear disaster zone is gonna get freaked out because the giger counter is showing slightly higher radiation than normal? Lol no shit of course it's going to show radiation it's a fucking nuclear disaster zone you retards. My god.