The new House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jefferies, is an election denier.

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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

No, they're not as bad as each other. One side's base is generally interested in social progress, and the other wants a christo-fascist dictatorship. You would have to already be leaning towards christo-fascism to think both outcomes are as bad as each other

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

So the republicans established the social progress by attempting to improve the economy, reduce illegal immigration and reduce the level of unemployment in minority groups and shifting massive funding to protected groups such as LGBT. But they also paved the way for Fauci to utterly demolish civil liberties through lockdowns, forced medical intervention and unnecessary fatalities and hardships.

The Dems are simply evil and always have been . Hellbent on starting new wars, invading countries, escalating military conflict, encouraging illegal immigration, they introduced the Patriot Act, they push business away through ridiculous levels of taxation, they claim to have never done anything wrong like delete 10k emails, Hilary, and of course the Dem states had the highest levels of COVID deaths and BLM riots as they encourage violence. I wish I could think of some good points, but this wasn't really my initial point.

Both fiddle with elections. Both blame eachother. Both enforced this COVID bullshit yet both are responsible. Both give US dollars away and neither are self aware enough to realise the rest of the world has had enough of their bullshit and are costing everyone money and lives, and all this privacy shit started right at home their in the US and neither party has the balls to put a stop to it. Still collecting everyone's data, huh? No fucking shit.

But sure, think one side is saintly if you want, they're both full of shit.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

That's just nonsense fed by your bias.

republicans established the social progress by attempting to improve the economy

The Dems are simply evil and always have been . Hellbent on starting new wars, invading countries, escalating military conflict,

I think you are misremembering who was in power at the time of patriot act and Iraq.

But regardless.

You've just written biased fluff here.

Please consider this: if I could write the exact same thing but swap the team names, then you're probably just laying out your biases rather than describing reality.

For example:

You can write - "The Dems are simply evil and always have been".

I can write - "republicans are simply evil and always have been".

Nowhere is there any judgement of facts - we're just explaining our biases to one another.

And just like me saying "no, your side is evil" won't ever convince you - please show me the same respect by withholding your bias and only engaging with me on the facts.

It's a fact that the dems' servers were hacked by trump-supporting state actors and it's a (court approved) fact that the Dominion/Chavez bullshit was totally made up.

That's why I wrote about those factual things and not just talked about my biases.

So please show the same respect when you speak to me.

"No! The republicans start wars and hate civil rights!"

"No! The dems start wars and hate civil rights!"

Neither side is going to convince the other.

But if you want to talk about justice dept indictments and supreme court appointments and whose emails I read on wikileaks - those are factual topics which we can engage on.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I was just making a point that you can write whatever you want about each of them and you come up with the same result. They are both shit parties full of corruption and shit stirring.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

No, you're quite wrong, please take a look at this -

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/2kaubu/just_a_reminder_of_what_the_senate_was_doing_the/cljns3q/

One side has a regressive base and one side has a progressive base. Individual politicians can suck but the overall direction from voters is absolutely not the same on both sides.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Figures check out. You are correct, the voter bases are equally as polarised in opposite directions.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not?

If you look at the figures - you can't come away with the conclusion that the only difference is 'giant douche' versus 'turd sandwich'. One side is trying to get a Progressive agenda done, the other side is trying to Conserve the status quo.

You can have a preference for which one of those things happens, but you can't tell me with a straight face that they're both the same.

[–]Scolias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's nothing progressive about 'progressives'.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"There's nothing conservative about 'conservatives'"

Surely that convinced you, right? Did I sway you to my side with that incredible argument?

[–]Scolias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no convincing delusional asshats like you. Learned that a while ago.