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[–]SoCo 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm a center-left Democrat, always have been. It's just that DNC have become against democracy and no longer even resemble Democrat values. Also, today's left, has turned to alt-left nutjobs, and they call center-left right any more.

It's all just posture shifting and faking support for any dumb-ass idea that draw in the campaign cash. Good, non-corrupt, politicians don't exist in a political system that gauges value and limits election entry, solely by the ability of each hustle cash like a crooked snake-oil salesman.

Them calling everyone they disagree with "alt-right" or exaggeratingly associating them nefarious things, is just that fascist anti-democratic mindset showing through it's true colors.

[–]MarkimusNational Justice Party[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Fascism is not anti-democratic, it's anti-liberal but it is democracy par excellence. Every citizen has much more participation and influence in state affairs under fascism than liberal states.

The rest of your comment is right though, the democrat party serve only their paymasters. Same as republicans. Hence why they both take completely nonsensical, self-contradictory etc positions constantly. It's all just theatre.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's anti-liberal but it is democracy par excellence. Every citizen has much more participation and influence in state affairs under fascism than liberal states.

I also deeply believe this but I have trouble articulating it to people.

[–]MarkimusNational Justice Party[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Page 28 / Chapter 13 (XIII)

The Fascist State, therefore, as distinct from the Nationalist State, is an entirely spiritual creation. It is a national State, because from the point of view of Fascism, it is the result of spiritual action rather than a presupposition. The nation is never complete—nor is the State simply the nation in its concrete political form. The State is always in fieri. It is all always in our hands. It is therefore our own immense responsibility. But this State that realizes itself in the consciousness and will of the individual, rather than being imposed from on high, cannot have the same relationship with the people imagined by Nationalism. They imagined that the State corresponded with the nation, and conceived both as an already existing entity that it was not necessary to create, but which it was only necessary to come to know. That preexisting entity required a ruling class, characteristically intellectual, that sensed that entity, that first required to be known, understood, appraised, and exalted. The authority of the State was not a product, but a presupposition. It could not depend on the people, in fact, the people depended on the State. The authority that the people were required to recognize was the very precondition of life. Without that authority, sooner or later, one would have to acknowledge that survival was not possible. The Nationalist state was aristocratic state, that constructed itself out of the force it inherited from its origin, that made it valued by the masses. The Fascist State, on the other hand, is a popular state, and, in that sense, a democratic State par excellence. The relationship between the State and the individual is not that between it and one or the other citizen, but with every citizen. Every citizen shares a relationship with the State that is so intimate that the State exists only in so far as it is made to exist by the citizen. Thus, its formation is a product of the consciousness of each individual, and thus of the masses, in which the power of the State consists.

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't this beautiful? Those who oppose this, I believe simply don't understand it.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing that. Good stuff.