When someone tells you that the western world is muh climate change, show them China has over 1100 coal fired power stations.

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[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The dumbass retards will simply say "muh per capita!" as if mother nature herself should materialize, she would give China a free pass to black their skies with coal because it is less output per person.

[–]LordoftheFlies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

To be just a tiny bit (a really tiny bit, mind) fair though, they might be aware that their ability to get China to do pretty much anything that China doesn't want to do is somewhere in between the points of jackshit and fuck-all-nothing.

They might also be aware that all of the garbage shipped to China for supposed recycling is just dumped in the ocean, and that China doesn't do a single fucking thing but collect money for services never rendered. And so counting on China, of all places, to give a rat's ass about pollution is about as likely as Biden suddenly putting on a MAGA hat and saying that Trump was a great president.

[–]MightyMorphinFaggot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This isn't actually a dig at China. If some potato brain start moaning at me about my diesel car i'll just ask if they buy anything from China and have it shipped to them on massive cargo ships.

[–]LordoftheFlies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

if they buy anything from China and have it shipped to them on massive cargo ships.

No man, they buy it from Amazon and it just magically appears in one of their warehouses. Santa's elves have to do something in the off season, you know?

[–]MightyMorphinFaggot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They also have far cheaper energy than Europe right now because of this.

[–]ChinaDefender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are right, the electricity price in China is 0.53 yuan/kWh, 0.075 USD/kWh. Really cheap. My House electricity bill is $20~40 a month.

But my parents still think it's expensive and make me use less air conditioner.

The real cheap thing in China is the network fee, which is only $4.64 a month, MaxSpeed: 200Mb/s.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...and is planning to build a thousand more...

but if they say that sort of thing they are already ignoramuses.

[–]Feldheld 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Logically, the whole climate change hysteria doesnt make any sense. Even if fossil fuels would warm the climate to a dangerous degree it would make no sense to create an artificial ceiling for mankind to prevent reaching a natural ceiling a bit later. It would be as logical as committing suicide for fear of dying of natural causes. As per usual politicians would do way more harm than good.

The true intention of climate activists however is to prevent YOU from using fossil fuels and eating meat etc so they can sustain their life-style a bit longer. These are extremely spoiled entitled and bored people, the peak of decadence and arrogance after the most prosperous era mankind has ever created. They will sacrifice anything and everybody on the altar of their narcissism and egotism.

[–]ChinaDefender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As a Chinese, I would like to offer some of my own views: ⒈ China's electricity demand is particularly large. In the next 10 years, it will turn to automobile manufacturing, aircraft manufacturing, and chip manufacturing. China has abundant coal resources, so it needs to build more coal power plants. ⒉ The newly built coal power plant adopts the most advanced technology, which can absorb 95% of carbon dioxide into a special box, thereby reducing carbon emissions. Replacing old power plants with new ones will reduce carbon dioxide emissions. ⒊ China's per capita emissions are half that Europe's, but not particularly low, and may approach European levels in the future. ⒋ China seems to be afraid of nuclear leakage and dare not build a large number of nuclear power plants. In fact, China's nuclear energy technology is quite mature. ⒌Xi is definitely the most environmentally friendly chairman among the previous presidents. Although I don't like some aspects of him, I have to admit that if Xi had not paid attention to environmental protection since 2012, China's land, water and atmosphere would have been 10 times worse. ⒍ It is not difficult for China to achieve zero emissions in 2060, and it may be advanced to 2050. However, it is almost impossible to continue to compress the time. After all, China's goal is to reach 4 times the GDP of the United States by 2050.

[–]MightyMorphinFaggot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Listen mate, I'm not saying china is doing anything wrong.

What I'm saying is that, while we are crushed under restrictions and fines for having anything to do with oil, useless people will always assume the "climate crisis" is our fault, and completely ignore everyone else, because it's not about saving the planet, it's about control.

Carbon is what trees breathe. Why would you want to reduce it?

Nuclear is much better but there's nothing wrong with modern coal factories.

[–]ChinaDefender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think the climate crisis is the fault of any one country or the West. Carbon emissions are also restricted and fined in China, and many companies go bankrupt or spend huge sums of money installing filtration devices. The improvement in air quality from reducing carbon emissions is significant, at least in my city after switching all buses and taxis to electric, the air quality has improved a lot. The impact on temperature is also obvious. The average annual temperature of all industrial cities in China has risen by 2 to 3 degrees compared with the past 30 years. Of course, I cannot guarantee that the global climate will be affected by carbon emissions.

control what? Are you worried that controlling carbon emissions will cripple your country's economy? Or think the climate crisis is a hoax?

[–]MightyMorphinFaggot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If there was a climate crisis we would be banned from exercising due to too much carbon being released. Marathons are massive climate crisis events.

There's a difference between air pollution and carbon being released.

[–]ChinaDefender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry you're in a country where you might be banned from exercising or marathons. To be honest, the most incomprehensible thing for Chinese people is why there are so many idiots in the West. For example, those who call for vegetarianism, those who do not believe that the earth is round, those who suggest giving up cars and using bicycles, etc. And some of them even got government jobs. In China, at least a fool cannot be in power. 98% of people in China think that the "How Dare You" girl is a fool. Even Chinese children knows: saving water is not banning water. planting trees with own hands is much better than empty speeches.

Environmental protection must be scientific and reasonable, and we cannot give up a comfortable quality of life and development capabilities for the sake of environmental protection. The largest pollution comes from factories, and the activities of citizens do not pollute much.

China now has a campaign called Against the Infiltration of Western Vegans. The government publicly criticizes celebrities who advocate vegetarianism, believing them to be sinners who destroy the physical fitness of the Chinese people and spies sent by the West to harm young people.