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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In UK Health and Safety law, a business and it's responsible persons may receive an unlimited fine, imprisonment or both in circumstances where death occurs through negligence or breach of duty. I'm quite sure this is similar in the US, and compensation claimes are of course separate to these fines.

Nobody can deny that vaccines (in general) save lives, this obviously wasn't the point. Airbags save more lives than they kill, and there have only been around 17 fatalities worldwide caused by airbags, but if a design were deemed more dangerous than others then it would be pulled from the market and investigated, and if found to be negligence then somebody would be prosecuted.This detracts from the point that specific vaccines, such as the COVID vaccine, may have led to an excess number of deaths compared with other vaccines which we consider safe.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In UK Health and Safety law, a business and it's responsible persons may receive an unlimited fine, imprisonment or both in circumstances where death occurs through negligence or breach of duty.

Sure. Murder, in the other hand, does not get a fine.

Airbags save more lives than they kill, and there have only been around 17 fatalities worldwide caused by airbags,

That number might be a bit low.

design were deemed more dangerous than others then it would be pulled from the market and investigated,

No, if it meets the standards, it's legal. Higher tech ones detect the weight and location of the person, and alter the speed of deployment. Or they detect the crash and deploy prior to impact. Although cheaper designs are more dangerous, they don't get pulled from the market, and no one gets persecuted.

This detracts from the point that specific vaccines, such as the COVID vaccine, may have led to an excess number of deaths compared with other vaccines which we consider safe.

Which CoVID vaccine may have led to an excess of deaths compared with others?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sure. Murder, in the other hand, does not get a fine.

Pharmaceutical companies are exempt from damages caused by vaccines. They had to change the definition of a vaccine to fit the new COVID injection so that they would be exempt from damages from this treatment. If found to be negligent by releasing a harmful untested substance on the public, they would otherwise be subject to fines for subsequent deaths.

That number might be a bit low.

Probably 😐

No, if it meets the standards, it's legal.

No, standards are revised when found that they are not sufficiently safe.

Which CoVID vaccine may have led to an excess of deaths compared with others?

We would never be told such a thing, as far as we are led to believe, there are no COVID vaccine deaths 🙄

But the J&J vaccine was pulled for example due to the heightened risk of blood clots, which in turn could be seen as being a danger to one's health, or in vulnerable persons a danger to life.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They had to change the definition of a vaccine to fit the new COVID injection so that they would be exempt from damages from this treatment.

The definition of vaccine in which act?

No, standards are revised when found that they are not sufficiently safe.

If it meets standards, it's legal. If the standards change, there's not generally a recall. You just have to meet what the standard was at the time of manufacture.

But the J&J vaccine was pulled for example due to the heightened risk of blood clots, which in turn could be seen as being a danger to one's health, or in vulnerable persons a danger to life.

Ha. All that fear mongering by the anti vaxers about the mRNA technology, and it turns out they're so much safer than the J&J vaccine, that the J&J vaccine has been pulled.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes I wonder if you're being difficult for for sake of it.

[–]ActuallyWhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do you mean by "manufacture"? Do you mean the act of commercially producing a product as a profitable business in exchange for money? What money do you think.was.made by the vaccine? Are you a madman? Money doesn't grow on parrots old chap!