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[–]ActuallyNot 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

obvious fair and honest way to peace with Russia

Allowing Russia to expand its territory doesn't work. They took Crimea, and then kept invading.

Putin is looking for the boost in public opinion that he got from annexing Crimea. And will continue to annex his neighbours until he is shown that invasion, ethnic cleansing and annexation is not worth it.

The only solutions that will result in a lasting peace are ones that return Ukraine to the borders that are internationally recognised. This is this shape. Nothing less is viable.

[–]JosephDeMaistre 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ActuallyNot is ofc right - in theory: but the only realistic solution would, alas, be Finland after Winter War: it managed to survive but had to cede some territories. The thing is, Putin has very little to lose. He CANNOT "lose". He's playing va banque for months. Unless he's overthrown (and almost certainly killed in the process, which would be awesome!) or the US would resort to nuclear threats (up to threatening with pre-emptive strikes) - which is impossible in the current climate, where the president has clearly dementia and the US/West has been pathologically altruistic for decades (remember the excessive concern for our enemies' casualties in Afghanistan etc. to the detriment of our troops efficiency. Pics of hanged Mussolini were published everywhere: Osama and ISIS monsters were offered Islamic ad hoc burials after US finally got them, rather than publicly humiliating this filth and demonstrating our commitment!).