Who Really Holds the Power?

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[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

I agree with the sentiment generally, but why are you focusing on Jews specifically?

You realize how that makes the argument seem invalid don't you?

I don't think Robin DiAngelo is Jewish, Bezos isn't Jewish, and neither are any of the dozens of POC authors they push.

Meanwhile people like Ben Shapiro are among the people that most espouse the opposite.

Jewish people are white.

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

How do you explain the fact that no one is allowed to criticize jews?

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No one is allowed to criticize blacks,gays,trans,other non whites,and basically anyone on the left but i don't anyone making conspiracies about any of those groups holding power.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No other protected group holds as high a position as jewish people. And of those groups only jews are wealthy and powerful. When you look at who is holding the power and using it to spread propagand and silence opposition it's always jews. Why does Israel receive more aid per capita than any other country despite a history of betraying the US? Why do congressmen sign a loyalty pledge to Israel? Why is the FBI betraying the US to protect the "dancing isrealies" going as far as destroying evidence?

It is not as simple as "they are protected therfore they are in charge". That is simply one big piece of evidence in a mountain of evidence.

[–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look at the cold war history to see why.Also there is no evidence of dancing israelies.It would be make 0 sense for expert spies to randomly dance for no reason.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Expert spies" LOL.

The FBI were forced to reveal that they had arrested and interrogated them via a freedom of information act request. This isn't even a conspiracy theory, the proof is out there.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Really? I feel like I see it all the time. It's only when it gets into the "Jewish mass conspiracy to dominate the world" territory that people shut it down, and that's because this one asshat started spouting that shit about a hundred years ago, and basically everything about him is now taboo, including his sweet mustache and the entire concept of eugenics.

But have you ever watched a movie? Jews get criticized and mocked all the time. You are allowed to tell Jew jokes for the most part, they are considered only mildly offensive, where as "white people" jokes and "men" jokes are considered completely ok. I think the closest thing to Jew jokes in terms of acceptability and offensiveness is women jokes or maybe Mexican jokes. Just enough you can piss people off and maaaaaybe get canceled if you take it too far, but not that bad.

Black people, LGBT people, and Muslims are are the ones you can't criticize even when it's valid.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

that's because this one asshat started spouting that shit about a hundred years ago,

Here we go with the "muh hitler" excuse. We literally can't even be honest about what happened because you get thrown in jail for questioning that story. Nothing true needs to be defended that way. Only bullshit needs those kinds of laws.

But it doesn't matter what the excuse is because obviously the most powerful people in the world would have an excuse just like that. Obviously they aren't going to just say "you can't talk about our welath and power because we have welath an power". And obviously it would be illegal to question that excuse.

But whatever the reason you think it is, at least we can agree that Jewish power can't be talked about.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey man, I just wanted to first say, I like you. It's rare to have someone with a different perspective not act like a jerk and an asshole about it. You are clearly much more confident in your intelligence than most people I have talked to on reddit to on saidit and I both admire that, and will add that that confidence is well deserved.

I agree to an extent. It's definitely kinda fucked up how far back the line was drawn because of Hitler. The guy was awful, but literally everyone has redeeming qualities.

It is bizarre to me how the numbers in the holocaust don't add up. Some how it's 6 million Jews, but also gays, blacks and political dissidents were also included, but the number is 6 million Jews of 6 million dead.

That said.

No one has any issues if you say the Jews run Hollywood. It's generally well known, and unless there were other reasons to suspect you are being anti-semetic rather than just explaining the fact that Jewish people are very well connected in Hollywood.

People don't get upset if you say there is a disproportionate number of Jews in Politics.

It's when you start getting it wrong people have an issue. Even if it's just a tiny exaggeration. Meanwhile I will admit that the left is able to exaggerate and misinterpret everything a white person says.

So I would definitely give you that.

I would also definitely agree that Jews both have a disproportionate amount of power generally and have a tendency to help each other out in ways that other white people generally don't and would be perceived racist if they did.

But apart from Hollywood and the financial industries, I really just don't buy that Jews have that much power. I think in the US at least Anglo-Saxons if anything have the most disproportionate amount of power. Apart from Kennedy, and Trump, every president we have ever had has been at least half Anglo-Saxon.

I don't know man. I can understand to an extent where you are coming from, but you appear to be grasping at straws at least to me.

I'm genuinely curious though what had inspired this perspective in you. I am not above the idea that maybe I am missing something.

I'm kind of drunk right now though. Been doing beer flights at breweries all night. Feels great!

[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

They focus on jews because jews won't blow your ass up for criticizing them like muzzies. They have to focus on someone (else) because focusing on self and on their own perosonal failure as men to defend Christian civilization against degeneracy makes them feel bad.

Joooooooposters are the saddest of the sad sacks.

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I can criticize Muslims all day long and not get banned from social media and risk losing my job. I can't say the same about criticizing jews.

[–]usurper 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They've sent little old ladies to prison for years for criticizing them. I think it was a 97 year old woman in Germany and a 103 year old woman in Austria, setting the record for the oldest prison inmate on planet earth.

One of the first thing the bolshevik's Jewish leadership did after seizing power was make antisemitism(criticism of Jews) a literal capital offense.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can you criticize muslims all day long on a forum controlled by muslims? Don't the shizo j00posters insist jews control the internet?

think, man.

[–]usurper 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What forums do muslims control? Jews effectively control reddit, google, facebook, youtube, instagram, tiktok. They had a controlling stake in twitter until musk bought a bunch of shares, and they have attacked him relentlessly for it.

They control cloudfare and paypal. They even control duckduckgo. You mention bezos. Well who is the current ceo of Amazon? It aint bezos anymore. Not to mention the advertising clout they wield and countless lobbying and pressure groups they use to control online discourse. Its a near total monopoly. Muslims don't control shit. They’re irrelevant.

I would criticize any group that had this kind of monopoly, least of all a group that only represented 2% of the population and had the track record they do.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wooosh

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Internet is full of comments like "Nuke Middle East", those comments literally promote deaths of the millions, yet somehow those comments always stay up. Why is such thing not considered genocidal and not censored while saying "Europe for Europeans" or "White Lives Matter" is?

Go be a kike shill somewhere else, anyone with two braincells knows the Muslims are the symptom, not the root problem. Muslims aren't the one running the banks, the government, the media, the academia, censoring you, etc.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I still wonder why nobody realizes that Isreal as a State exists because even the Britons didn't want them in their country...

[–]usurper 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But they are still in their country are they not? I mean they destroyed Jeremy Corbyn because he mildly criticized Israel. George Soros immigrated to the UK after they defeated the Nazis and saved his ass, and he repaid them by using insider information to break the British pound. Then uses that ill gotten money to fund demographically replacing them in the homeland they lived in for thousands of years. You cant make this shit up.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

everyone who disagrees with me is a kike shill, plus whataboutisms

(fails to address my point)

Many such cases.

[–]usurper 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your point was that people criticize Jews because its less risky than criticizing muslims, and the response was that Muslims are criticized all day long in the mainstream media and on social media, whereas you cant do the same to Jews. Thereby disproving your “point”.

Muslims have no power or influence over my daily life. Jews have enormous influence over our lives. Hell the very reason we’re on saidit is because a Jew oligarch(who inherited his money) bought reddit after it became popular, and then censored all criticism of Jews, while promoting slander and hatred of whites and censoring and banning anyone who protests. Reddit used to be a symbol of online free speech. Now its a symbol of Jewish censorship, propaganda, and authoritarianism.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wow it's like you live in bizarro world LOL

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

White traitors are the problem, sure, however you can attack them because of their race however much you want. Not the case with Jews.

Just observe the latest cohenservative talking point about "rich white liberals". Why isn't anyone talking about "rich indian liberals" or "rich jewish liberals"? Both of these groups are both richer and more liberal than whites, but only the syntagma "rich white liberals" is acceptable. You damn well know which one of these three words allows this phrase to be acceptable.

Also Ben Shapiro, much like other cohenservatives and white traitors, is a Zionist bastard who would gladly send billions to his true state, Israel, while denying even the basic healthcare rights to Americans, telling working class people to pull themselves up the bootstraps. Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. And oh yeah, he's also a gatekeeper who doesn't believe in European people's right to self-determination.

Finally, Jews aren't white, they will say so themselves. They are only white when they're shitting on "fellow white people".

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When people are talking about "rich white liberals" though they are usually including Jews. I get that you don't see it that way, but I promise you, most people born after 1975 see Jewish people as just another shade of white, along with Irish, Italians, Russians etc. There is no more need to separate them from other white liberals than any other group under the "white" umbrella. That's why.

But I see people shit on "rich jewish liberals" all the time. Bill Maher seems to do it on pretty much every other show.

I'll give you the Indian one, though I think that's largely because they haven't permeated politics or industry to a sufficient extent anyone is really hating on them at all. It's usually just jokes about the way they talk and bob their heads.

Jews have also been drifting conservative over the past 20 years, especially religious Jews as opposed to non-practicing or loosely practicing Jews largely because conservatives are generally more supportive of Israel and liberals are more supportive of Palestine, especially after 9/11. They are still by and large Democrats, but it went from 90% down to like 60-75% depending on the polling source.

I'll give you that about Ben Shapiro with the donations to Israel. He's not at all ashamed of it. Just like most Catholics are not ashamed of the fact they pay tithings to the church that fund the Vatican, and a lot of protestant Christians donate to fund missions to convert people across the globe and to fund mega churches.

I mean, most of my Jewish friends definitely consider themselves white. There are situations where they don't I'll give you that. But yeah, they totally do.

[–]RedEyedWarriorIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah I half agree. Jeff Bezos certainly ain’t Jewish. And I’m not sure if Klaus Schwab is (he’s Swiss, partly German). But Ben Shapiro is a grifter who praises John McCain, who claims that Jeffrey Epstein killer himself and who is the main reason why the media harassed Nick Sandman. Also, yes a lot of Jews are white, but not all of them. Some of them are black (Ethiopian), some are Chinese.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, yes a lot of Jews are white, but not all of them. Some of them are black (Ethiopian), some are Chinese.

Black Jews get castrated in Israel. It's odd because Europe and America are FULL of Jewish-run NGOs promoting tolerance and equality.

[–]RedEyedWarriorIndependent 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Liberals cannot see the irony in this.

[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You got me on the Jewish thing. It's a faith that anyone can practice, and also four distinct ethnicities, where only Ashkenazi and Sephardic are white, Ethiopian and middle eastern Jews are not white.

As for the Ben Shapiro/Nick Sandmann thing, what are you talking about? This is the first time I have heard about that at all. It's my understanding that he largely rushed to Sandmann's defense after the media had slammed him. What am I missing here?

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interestingly I have a pic of my Nan's class at school from the 1940s which was 50% Jewish, likely Ashkenazi, and they don't look white at all.

This is something which has changed over the last century and explains how Jews were much easier to pick out and discriminate against in the past.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Rich white people hate poor and middle class poor people more than anyone. Minorities ape that when they want to climb the social ladder. Not just jews, Asians do the same thing and rich kids of African immigrants have started too.

Edit: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/the-utility-of-white-bashing/566846/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's just a mutant form of east coast elite protestant upper class religious snobbery, religion has become politics in America. But, unfortunately, a lot of poor white people are super dumb and trashy and like to join the homo military becuz gunz. I am a redneck by descent but the sheer retardation of the normie white underclass is not entirely an invention of the media, just as the cult like doublethink of leftists is not a conspiracy theory. Normies are mostly hypocrites and cowards who believe dumb shit because someone they like told them it, and they are emotionally and intellectually incapable of escaping it. Shitlibs are on average more intelligent, because they're better at conforming to social status signals. Right wingers are either too dumb to know what's forbidden and why, or antisocial high IQ people who get annoyed at all the pretense and delusion in pop academics. This also means we're full of people who can't get along with others or who are too stupid to get things done. This IQ and personality gap is a big problem in mass politics, and why mass politics must be destroyed and not reformed (Republicans exist to deradicalize the right and make them government lackeys).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Jews are not white people, white people are Europeans descended from Yamnaya and their kin. Some Jews are mostly European, but they have distinctive middle eastern genetic markers not found outside in ancient basal Europeans and concentrated in the mudblood areas of the mediterranean today. Most Jews are a clearly distinctive group who cluster closer to Europeans than most middle easterners but lay outside of it. Why? Not enough steppe nomads with red beards in their family tree.

Genetics determine at least half of everything about humans, and different populations have different capabilities for civilization and social tendencies because of this. That being said, the fetish with jooz is a way to ignore how Christian civilization has inherent contradictions and apes in general are not well adapted to mass society and abundance. The jews didn't invent the market economy, and it's never going away. Traditionalism is mostly just wank and fake history, and while Europeans may be the best race theyre still mostly idiots.

[–]makesyoudownvote 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Technically middle eastern people are also considered white by the US government and the census bureau. I am half middle eastern and I have to check Caucasian on everything and get none of the privileges other PoCs do unless I was also Muslim, but neither me nor my parents are Muslim.

But that said you are getting into semantics, have you ever seen ancestry tests, almost no one is pure European.

Also light skinned genetics are believed to have evolved twice actually, and pure blooded Persians are ALSO white. In fact Iran literally means, land of the Aryans since Persians are believed to be descended from the Aryans as they fled what is now India and Pakistan.

That all said, this is besidethe case, the left absolutely views Jews as white and has for over 20 years now. They are just as much the enemy of the modern left as any other person of European ancestry just like Irish and Italians niw are, but were oppressed in the 1800s much the same way blacks were in the 1950s.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

no, you dontrt know what youre talking about and i dont care.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure what informs you that "I don't know what I'm talking about" but I can provide sources for everything I have said. It's well documented and known. None of this should be new information to anyone.

The work also reveals for the first time that Asians owe their relatively light skin to different mutations. That means that light skin arose independently at least twice in human evolution, in each case affecting populations with the facial and other traits that today are commonly regarded as the hallmarks of Caucasian and Asian races.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/12/16/scientists-find-a-dna-change-that-accounts-for-white-skin/044388e3-441e-4ae0-9fed-67c27134d00e/

Below is a basic summary of the Aryan people and their migration to Iran. You are welcome to read it or not. You said you don't care, so I'm sure you probably won't read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

Below is an additional source on the parallel development of "light skinned" skin pigmentation as determined by genetic research.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2009227118

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The left will cancel you for criticizing jews.