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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I suspect Putin was talked out of it by his senior staff or possibly even China. Putin was expected to call for full mobilization of Russian forces, that'd be a standing army of 3 million, 1 M active, 2 M in reserve. They're having troubles with 180,000 troops in Ukraine as is, their largest battle in recent times.

If mobilization failed it would be supremely embarrassing. Also the world is probably gonna be antsy with a 3 million strong war machine ready to go.

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

If mobilization failed it would be supremely embarrassing.

More or less embarrassing than the USA's ten year invasion and occupation of Iraq, costing trillions of dollars, which has ended up with the money disappeared into the pockets of private contractors and Iraq an extremely dubious and untrustworthy ally?

How about the twenty year invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, ending up with the same people (the Taliban) back in charge, only this time with a shit ton of US military equipment and biometric data showing exactly which Afghans collaborated with the US?

Also the world is probably gonna be antsy with a 3 million strong war machine ready to go.

If by "world" you mean the USA and its allies, puppets and shills.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

More or less embarrassing than the USA's ten year invasion...

More. The US got to Iraq and Afghanistan smoothly, and kicked ass. Wasn't run well long term, but remember the Soviets had their own defeat at the hands of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

If by "world" you mean the USA and its allies, puppets and shills

Anyone who doesn't want China running global affairs should care. It won't be a Russia led world, they're too technologically backwards and broke ass, but their ally China wants the job.

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The US got to Iraq and Afghanistan smoothly, and kicked ass.

Ah, the good ol' memory hole strikes again. Smooth as sandpaper.

Afghanistan: a bunch of desert tribesmen with no training whose most advanced weapon was the AK-47 and the Toyota Hilux, and they out-lasted the US-led coalition and all the mercenaries Blackwater could hire.

Iraq: a nation weakened by decade of sanctions, with no friends or allies, who didn't receive one single bullet from anyone once the war started. And yet, it took nine months to capture Saddam Hussein, and a year after overthrowing the Iraqi government and supposedly "winning the war", the US was defeated by civilians in a major battle.

Compared to Iraq and Afghanistan, Ukraine has been training with NATO for the last eight years, specifically to fight Russia. They have had a shit ton of arms and equipment dropped in their laps. (And some of it hasn't been stolen by Zelensky and his cronies and actually got into the hands of the troops. Not much, but some.) They get all the military intelligence the US and NATO has to offer. Iraq and Afghanistan got butkus.

Anyone who doesn't want China running global affairs should care.

Its hard to say who would be worse as sole superpower, China or the USA.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Its hard to say who would be worse as sole superpower, China or the USA.

Astute.