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[–]LordoftheFlies 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Pass, thanks, I don't want the Muslims' sharia law and I don't want the Protestant version of it either.

[–]CanisRexIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Protestantism is reformed Christianity. I assure you its ideals have literally nothing in common with sharia law. Also, in the US, our laws are already based on christian morals and ethics anyways. So...sucks to suck, I guess?

[–]IMissPorn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Arguably Islam is reformed Christianity too. Despite obvious differences I'd say they have more in common than not.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The person making that argument is retarded.

http://prophetofdoom.net/

[–]LordoftheFlies 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a marked difference between "based on" and "dictated by."

And if you think having shitburgers like Joel Osteen or Talbert Swan in a position to control governmental policy--and please, don't insult me by claiming that their sort wouldn't be soon attached to the levers of power; they seek power like a leech seeks blood--is a good idea? Please, check yourself into an in-patient mental help facility immediately, you've obviously slipped a few important brain cells.

[–]Insider 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You mean the fake laws written up that no government agent actually follows?

The US is partially run by Satanists.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Human sacrifices are a proud indigenous American tradition and we should definitely bring them back. Once we stopped sacrificing people on pyramids to please the sun God we brought his wrath on our planet. Which is why we suffer from global warming now. If we truly want to save our society we need to start sacrificing the holy trans youth in front of our national monuments and in our halls of Congress so that the sun gods wrath may be appeased global warming ended forever before the ice wall melts and the oceans pour out over the side of the flat earth.

[–]RedditExPat69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

our judicial system gets more from ancient Rome and Greece than from the Bible.

[–]CanisRexIndependent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i suppose the founding fathers were enlightenment era politicians, right? So you're probably partially correct.

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    [–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'll take Amish theocratic dictatorship over the others listed I reckon. Though I think the Church of Seinfeld would be a better choice. Mandatory festivus celebrations. Permanent revocation of soup privledges for those who fail to air enough grevences.

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      [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      Yeah, I don't know what she's thinking saying that out loud. It's like Republicans are counting their chickens before they're hatched. They shouldn't be reminding the former Democrats of their party why they hated Republicans originally.

      [–]Alienhunter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      This is par for the course with dominionist discourse if you've been listening. These sorts of people would ban saying fuck and showing tits on TV if they could get away with it.

      Oh wait.

      They're funny as sin when they go to Europe and freak out. Puritans man, they left because Europe was too secular, they still are a major force in US culture. What else can you expect from a country founded by a mix of profiteering adverturous seekers of fortune and cultists that left Europe because their kids were leaving the cult due to exposure to friendly dutch people suggesting that sitting in church for 10 hours on Sunday and being whacked with poles if you dozed off is a bit extreme.

      Don't even want to know what the penalty for not attending church was. They'd banish you from the colony.

      America, founded by those seeking the religious freedom to force everyone to follow their religion.

      [–]CanisRexIndependent 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Current republicans are all fucking retarded. They'll all be replaced this election, hopefully.

      [–]Feldheld 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Here in Germany the separation of church and state ended in 2020. The media have become the new government sponsored church, and with it we have annulled 200 years of cultural progress. Germany is now a theocracy, very similar to Iran. The feelings of the faithful (the media sheep) are the sovereign of anything. Rule of law, separation of powers, democracy, equality before the law, all these modern achievements have been abandoned. They still exist on paper but de facto theyre obsolete.

      The most obvious proof for this development is the judicial record of the Bundesverfassungsgericht (the highest court in Germany, like the SCOTUS in the USA) since 2020. A chain of absurd anti-constitutional decisions and open collusions between the judges and certain politicians.

      The separation of church and state was the beginning of our modern world, and with it the modern world will end.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      b4$3d

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        [–]CanisRexIndependent 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        Seethe commie.

        [–]Gaslov 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Good. We kicked out the church and now everything is screwed up. Just like what happens EVERY TIME YOU HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE RETARDS. No God, no Government.

        [–]Insider 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Church hasn't been kicked out, Satanic church has been in the government for numerous decades.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

        Nothing says moral like a god who committed multiple genocides, sanctioned slavery, and raped a young girl. I can see why Americans like him so much.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        Tell us you don't understand the bible but use different words

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        I've read the whole thing. Nothing I said was wrong. The Jewish/Christian/Muslim god did everything I said he did according to it.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        I didn't say "tell us you didn't read the Bible" now did I?

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        Please explain away the genocides and slavery the supposedly moral and good god either personally committed or ordered his people to commit.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        • God as sovereign can do what he wants

        pretty easy ngl

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        That's called a tyrant.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        If you make a pencil drawing and erase a character that makes you a tyrant

        hmmokay

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        So you'd be cool with it if your parents decided to kill you? They did make you after all and by your idiotic logic that gives them the right to do whatever they fuck they want to you.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        They didn't actually

        [–]RedditExPat69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        don't forget when god made a bear devour kids as a means of revenge. nice guy though lol

        [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        To be fair the kids called the prophet bald.

        [–]RedditExPat69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        those bastards!

        [–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        While it's certainly not a mainstream opinion within the republican party dominionists do exist and form a particularly powerful and somewhat rabbid arm of the conservative movement. I'll give the radlibs credit where credit is due, these people are insane and should be taken seriously, but I won't pretend their opinions are the majority on the right.

        If you've ever talked with a hardline bible thumping republican you'll quickly realize they are just as insane retarded and brainwashed as the hardcore trans-activists, in all actuality it's the same personality type really, just depends on what radicalized them young.

        Tell a hardline dominionist that removing separation of church and state might result in a religion other than their own dictating policies they personally don't like and they'll act like the church is some completely homogeneous body of Christ that agrees on everything, except for those bad churches like the unitarians or what not. And here Baptist churches have splits because they can't agree on the timing of the rapture happening before or after everyone is forced to suffer from Armegeddon.

        It's no different than what they complain about the left, they aren't interested in democracy or the constitution they only want to make everyone live by their own chosen ideology, well touche welcome to politics.

        I can only imagine the immediate splits that will happen if they ever seize power. Imagine how pissed the Catholics would be at a Mormon theocracy. You'll get shit like communion wine being banned from churches again like back 100 years ago the last time a bunch of religious women got their way with public policy.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        mormon theocracy

        Somehow I don't think the minority religions would be the ones running the scene

        [–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        They already control one state.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        ...where they are the majority, yes

        [–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        It's funny that 50 years ago or so American churches didn't want to get involved in politics because that was worldly matters which distracted from the spiritual work.

        That changed when the republican party started using things like abortion as party political issues.

        Now they don't have abortion to game Christians with they will be looking for a new wedge issue.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        They can still use abortion. Now that Roe is overturned there will be battles in every state to decide what the law will be. And the presidential candidates on both sides will probably claim that they're going to make federal laws about it either way.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        "In 1954, Congress approved an amendment by Sen. Lyndon Johnson to prohibit 501(c)(3) organizations, which includes charities and churches, from engaging in any political campaign activity."

        It wasn't their choice. Their funding is at risk when they get political. It's just in modern times the churches have been ignoring that rule and there are calls to get rid of their tax exempt status.

        didn't want to get involved in politics because that was worldly matters which distracted from the spiritual work.

        That doesn't sound like any church I ever heard of. The spiritual bullshit is how they maintain their power and wealth.

        [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

        https://youtu.be/zpLCIc5PvQw

        [–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        they will be looking for a new wedge issue.

        Obergefell.

        I love having been in the crosshairs of public discourse for my entire adult life.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        The transgenders and Democratic party have poisoned the support base for LGBT issues. I'd be prepared for your marriage to turn into a civil union.

        Which, personally I don't see the big deal. Seems semantical.

        [–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I don't care what it's called. If "civil union" has the same inheritance and power-of-attorney benefits it's all the same to me. All those drama queens who had hissy fits over "civil union" -- they were as bad as the trangenders are now.

        [–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        How it is to be expected from the politically active who care more about words than practical effects. Same with Row, same with the Trans.

        I'm happy to concede the opposite and say it doesn't matter if it's called marriage or not either, it's just a matter of what is politically feasible now. Would you rather put your chips in marriage alone and fight long and hard for that all the while slowly but surely galvanizing a resistance that will not sleep once you have it, or would you prefer a civil union now that even most religious evangelicals are going to probably support. Since really while the truly hateful of the gays extremists exist, they are rare and largely not evangelical types. Evangelicals are more like "those poor poor gay people need Jesus to save them from hell" and won't be concerned with the legal minutia of inheritance or any other legal ins and outs.

        It is important to remember though that the politically active dominionist arm of the republican party would see their ideology codified into law if they had the power base, they do not, but we need to take their positions seriously when arguing against them. Otherwise the slippery slope begins to take effect and you will see the more extreme arms that aren't ever satisfied and need to move constantly to new issues will eventually seek to ban things like cohabitation and sex outside of marriage. Enforcement quagmires be damned when fighting for Jesus god will work it out.

        They are no different than progressives in their larger ideological strokes, authoritarianism. Denial of material reality, a desire to shape society in their utopian image and a shunning of anyone that points out differently. A desire to impose their own ideology on everyone else since they believe strongly they are absolutely correct and morally driven to do so because it's better for you. Very condescending.

        These people have always existed in society, I believe it goes hand in hand with cluster B type personality disorders. Whether they latch onto what we paint as the left of right ideological extremes is really more a case of what they are exposed to when young and what is available for them. But don't be fooled into thinking that there's a fundamental difference between their broader ideological leanings and behavior. The horseshoe only rings true on the low resolution towards a tendency for authoritarian and extreme solutions. If you are gay in Iran a religious theology you either transition to being a woman or you are put to death. If you are gay in the UK there's a very good chance you'll be convinced that you are woman and transjtion and if you don't you'll "end up killing yourself".

        Yet in both countries the very low resolution reality and practical nature of it is extremely similar.

        If gay become woman.

        If not become woman die.

        Less extreme in Britain, for the moment. But no less true.

        [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Separate banks and state.

        [–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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        [–]package 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Very good example of a person who chose a “side” based on attention seeking rather than morals, making their actual opinions extremely contradictory or out of touch. Very common among “based” female influencers too.

        [–]agent_pecan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        At this point, I will support this. Eat the left!