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[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

This guy thinks a gold import ban is all of America's chips on the table? Lol!

America has a lot of dry powder. Generations of work, preparing a war machine to destroy totalitarian land armies in Europe. USA is just getting started, Putin the warmonger is in for a world of pain.

[–]Insider 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Putin's a warmonger...then what does that make the US?

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

And did ya hear about them Habsburgs! Boy were they some warmongers. Did you have any other comparisons you wanted to make or is there a point here somewhere

[–]Questionable[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

His example came from your statement. Are you controlled opposition? Because we don't need that here. And definitely not this transparent and incompetent at least. Seriously are you just a bad scripting algo? Please stop, please stop hitting yourself.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Bruh it's whataboutism, you're allowed to select any events in all of history. Don't complain to me, those are the rules of the game. See first I say Putin is a warmonger because he's currently involved in a war he mongered and has a few more lined up. Then internet morons get to come up with something, anything from history and say "what about this!"

Like, if you needed examples, you could whatabout Japanese wartime crimes against humanity. Or you could whatabout Mehmet the conqueror - a real, serious warmonger. The guy above picked USA, which I thought was a cheap move, he should have dipped into history a bit - seriously check out them Habsburgs! Real warmongers back turn!

[–]Questionable[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Yes. Everything you say is "whataboutism". You have identified the only tool in your tool kit.

So, when you are pretending to have valid, yet self defeating arguments , am I to play along that you are not a stooge pretending to be opposition? Is it OK, if we break the forth wall and mug at the audience?

Oh, I mean. Take that you very bad villain in forum that I have opposed and defeated, who is a very real person that I have confronted.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Point to where I employed "whataboutism"? You can't because I didn't do any. The post we are responding to says that the G7 nations have taken a final move and have all their chips on the table, concerning russia.

My reply: no they haven't, Putin is still in for a world of pain if he keeps up the warmongering.

That's not whataboutism, it's a direct reply to the content of the tweet we're all looking at. For someone to say "well what about [this other country]" is pure whataboutism.

Truly I am glad that you accused me of it, because that means you're aware it's a bad faith debating technique - the only issue is, you're unable to recognise it, or you see it when it isn't there. So you're half way there. Now go back and re-read u/ insider's comment again and try harder to spot the whataboutism.

[–]Questionable[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

My apologies. What you did was "name calling", in labeling Putin a "war Monger" which takes even less effort than the comparison of whataboutism. I gave you too much credit. The mistake was mine.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Let's see. Has he engendered any wars.

  1. He attacked the apartment buildings in Moscow to build public support for the second chechnyan war.

  2. He went to war with Georgia to steal abkhazia and Ossetia

  3. He started a proxy war with Ukraine to steal luhansk/Donetsk

  4. He joined the Syrian civil war as an Assad proxy

  5. He invaded ukraine again and kicked off one of history's bloodiest wars and then said it was because he wanted to gather Russian lands like Peter the Great.

It's not really name-calling is it. It's an accurate description of a brutal fascist warmonger.

[–]Questionable[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's not really name-calling is it. It's an accurate description of a brutal fascist warmonger.

Yes. of course he did. I now see the error of my way. Please forgive me for living the vile life, that I do. You put those in bullet points. I can not Question these facts. You of all people are the sole authority and arbiter on "War Mongers", Putin's motivations, and every action he has ever taken. And we can not make any comparisons to Iraq, the U.S or Afghanistan , or else "Whataboutism". He truly is the Adolf Hitler of our time.

The super Villain Putin the War Monger is a real thing, and it is our patriotic duty to support Ukraine during our gay pride parades. All hail LGBTQ+ American patriots against Russian tyranny, provided that you support abortions for all birthing people, and are vaccinated, boosted and masked, eating a clean vegan diet, and commuting to work in an environmentally friendly way.

Let me know if there is anything else I can agree with you on. As I may not Question the narrative, as that the bad man has caused inflation, gas price increases, and formula shortages, using is evil plan, that effects our supply line, here in American, with the reach of his evil claws that grasp at our throats.

[–]Insider 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

On a comparative scale, Putin is barely a warmonger. Yes, he militarily invaded Ukraine, which was already taken over in 2014 by a US-backed coup filled with neo-Nazis. G7 is also supporting this war they instigated, which also makes them warmongers. Except Russia's only focused on this one conflict while US and allies (or the globalists) are focused on hundreds of conflicts.

"Whataboutism" or perspective.

Comparatively speaking US and allies = Satan. Putin = an angry ant on the side of the road. But you mad at the ant and not the fucking devil.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

2014 by a US-backed coup

That's russian propaganda, it's not true, I have been asking people for evidence for years and all I get directed to is the transcript of ambassador nuland. Which doesn't say any such thing. Do you have any evidence that that is true?

G7 is also supporting this war they instigated, which also makes them warmongers

They're giving weapons so that an oppressed people can defend themselves against imperialist rapist orcs. A bit different.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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