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[–]agent_pecan 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, I've definitely noticed this. Biden is intentionally degrading America in every way imaginable.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's why he was selected. Anyway, he's just the pretty face, everything is decided by the oligarchs in the shadows.

[–]Dunwidit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's actually been going on for decades. But now that they don't need the pictures anymore... It's time to destroy the experiment. They've learned what they need to learn about making people stupid and complacent.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

The bear has the dragon in his back. So no matter what the lame donkey does: This time it is not a smalltime Gaddafi the deep-state-asshats can bomb out of its palace.

Putin doesn't poker. But US-deep-state-asshats do. Because in their simulations everyone else is a numbed down, pedophilic, dementia-ridden, greedy and dehumanized as they are.

So they already lost this game of chess before it even began.

Totally conclusive in my simulation. The vicinity in time when US-bobbleheads prepared their own checkmate was when Putin talked to the Chinese at the Olympic Games. They most likely made a quid-pro-quo behind closed doors.

And the cloak and dagger mofos actually spread the "news" that Putin wouldn't attack. It was a fucking genius move of him. I can respect that very much.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because in their simulations everyone else is a numbed down, pedophilic, dementia-ridden, greedy and dehumanized as they are.

I think this is the biggest problem we have in the western world. We aren't led by politicians or even businesses. We are led by this weird demented group of in bred old money elites (mostly jews) and pyschopaths in the intelligence community (mostly jews or programmed by Jews) and they project. They think every leader in the world is just as sick as they are.

So they already lost this game of chess before it even began.

I wouldn't be so sure. When you're dealing with psychopaths they're ok with letting nations go to war. They will sacrifice their own nations and people they rule over if they can sit on top of the ruble at the end. Remember their goal is elimination or subjugation of all non Jews. Keep that in mind.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

Putin did NOT attack. He is only liberating the ethnic Russians of Eastern Ukraine from the genocide that's been happening for 8 years by the Ukrainian regime.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

u/wigger disagrees. He no like donbass people

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Surely we can look at symptoms on different meta-levels what an attack actually is.

Tell me yours, i tell you mine, i hereby propose.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Discussing semantics? Nah, thanks.

My point is, there has been a genocide in Eastern Ukraine for 8 years before the Russian military intervention. This is not a "brutal attack of ruthless conquest on the poor innocent Ukrainians" as the legacy media attempts to portray, but rather either Russia coming to the rescue of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine because they are the target of a genocide, or using said genocidal situation to ensure that Ukraine remains neutral and does not join NATO­.

One way or another, if you have a penny's worth of good sense, you can see that Russia is right: If NATO is allowed to station its intermediary range nukes in Ukraine, this is essentially an immediate nuclear first-strike threat by the only nation to ever use them in warfare and who participated in creating OPERATION UNTHINKABLE which called for the nuclear annihilation of over 60 soviet cities back in the late 1940s.

If NATO gets the ability to put their nukes in the Ukraine, then Putin has only one single recourse: first strike against the West, for which it has no defense and trying to counter the slow-ass Western nuclear missile counter-attack and survive.

I'll let you guess which course of action is best for the world: a neutral Ukraine or nuclear armageddon, at least for the West.

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Why is Ukraine's non-entry to NATO a causus belli for Putin but Estonia's actual entry a non-issue? Estonia is a stone's throw from st petersburg. Russia's facade about Ukraine entering NATO - which was never on the cards - is shown to be a total lie when you consider that their nearest neighbours have been NATO members for many peaceful years.

Edit to add - turkey just approved SE and FI. Whoops. Almost seems like he should have just not tried to block Ukraine's westernisation after all, doesn't it

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah. He just should accept western and dollar hegemony. Why not, actually.

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well, the above user argues that Ukraine's westernisation is what prompted this war. But in launching this war Putin has caused Moldova and Romania to hold joint parliament, he's pushed kazak into the western camp, he's caused his massive and well-populated border with Finland to be militarised.....in other words - if he was afraid of the ex-soviet world falling under "western and dollar hegemony" then this war was about the biggest mistake he could have made.

Do you disagree? Why would someone afraid of ex-soviet states westernising look at the world of June 22 and conclude the war was the right choice? Can you explain it

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Putin wants to be remembered. That is his personal interest in my personal simulation in this game of chess.

And since there was no westernising but actually facismising of many countries in eastern Europe south of St. Petersburg proudly sponsored and supported by US-deep-state asshats (as usual)

plus

the fact that the Western allies let Russia bleed over 27 million souls in Barbarossa instead of searching their microballs and finally opening a western front against Hitler (which they helped to put into power in the first place) earlier,

i totally can follow his reasoning. Eventhough i don't support these kind of wars at all.

Plus the fact that he stayed authentic since 2001 when he offered EU a big diplomatic olive branch to actually reinvent EU-Russian relations.

But these asshat rather chose to crawl up into the US-bobblehead-in-commands ass. Again and again.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But wait. If you really believe the west put Hitler into power (which i disagree) then how do you know they put the "bad" Hitler in power? If the 2001 Putin was a "good" Putin and he only turned bad later, then how come there wasn't a "good" Hitler who later went bad? Wouldn't the west be blameless for installing a "good" Hitler? Or could it be that the EU were right in 2001 to rebuff the "bad" Putin?

Also what is facisming? You mean Marine Le Pen who Putin supported? Or do you mean AFD who Putin supported? Or do you mean Aaron banks who Putin supported? Perhaps you mean the right wing mobs who attacked us capitol Jan 6th, who Putin supported? Perhaps you mean the Italian lega party who Putin supported? Perhaps you mean the Austrian Freedom Party which Putin supported?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

One thing at a time:

Hitler was "put" into power by a lot of old German monarchists and a "shadow" army put together politically by Ludendorff (his "sugardaddy", so to say) and military led by Guderian for most parts. This already happened in the roaring twenties. And after their coup d'etat in 1923 failed they put together the visible NSDAP and the less visible SA (whose "leader" was mossaded by the later SS then because he was gay and disagreed on some aspects of their planned "legal" power-grab) and the almost invisible "Freikorps" mostly led by Guderian who also developed completely "new" military tactics while doing this. But even after 1933 Germany essentially was bankrupt. So they asked their fascists friends in Gods own hellhole overseas (like Ford) for money and the Russians led by Stalin for ressources. Mostly steel. Which they bought partly with counterfeit foreign money. Many US-fascist-leaning industrialists supported the Nazis. Otherwise there simply couldn't have been a rearmament of the Wehrmacht with Versaille treaty reparations and growing German diplomatic isolation in the 30ies.

With Putin this is another cup of tea, at least in size:

How big do you suppose the US-deep-state pockets actually are ?

Correct: Almost endless. Because in 9/11 they destroyed the last remaining hardcopy evidence with the tomahawk they launched into the Pentagon.

So either they jingle around some drug tonnage around the world or they "just" print new money.

If Putin wants to hoard foreign currency he has to sell natural ressources.That actually is what most of his friends have their ill-gotten-gains from. Because he can't print money like US-FED-chief-ticks can without flushing the Russian economy down the toilet.

We're talking completely different dimensions in money for squeezing political power on foreign ground.

So he switched terrority and level of this very old conflict into something that he at least has a realistic chance of keeping his ground. As long as the Chinese keep buying his ressources.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

It's not so much "entry into NATO" as "will put U.S. nukes inside Ukraine". For whatever reason (I think the fact that Zelenskiy is a US puppet plays hugely into this), the risk with Ukraine was that much greater. And that's also why Putin's intervention makes total sense.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Why would US place nukes in a non NATO member like Ukraine instead of Estonia? Haven't there been nukes in Turkey for a long while?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I am not privy to all the insides and nitty gritty of everything relating to nuclear weaponry operations among the NATO nations. Some guesses: a) Estonia is too thoroughly surveiled by Russia; b) Estonia's terrain does not lend itself well to this kind of installation; c) Estonia's politicians, people, constitution or whatever specified upon joining NATO that there would be no nukes on their soil; d) Estonia's politics aren't easy enough to manipulate to ensure continued US support over future years and decades; Those are just a few, take your pick.

Also, Zelenskiy is a U.S. puppet. THAT is plenty good reason to use him to host nukes NATO member OR NOT.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Your point was that Putin's murderous war of aggression was somehow justified by the danger of NATO nukes in Ukraine.

But that's nonsense because

  1. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO until Putin started this in 2014

  2. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO in 2020s and wasn't on a path to join NATO

  3. The danger of "nearby" nukes was already present in NATO countries

  4. Vanguard class subs are already invisibly off the coast

  5. Nobody ever had any obligation to satisfy his paranoia or ego anyway, nations can defend themselves however they want

Nothing excuses this horrendous war. Or the theft of grain. Or the rapes or attacks on civilians. There's no politicking which allows for genocide. So Putin can fuck off with his paranoid a-historical conspiracy theories

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

  1. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO until Putin started this in 2014

Oh you mean right after the U.S. backed coup against the democratically elected Ukrainian President and installed a puppet ruler?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are a lot of speculations on the actual nuclear capabilities or possible outcomes of an confrontation of this magnitude.

Sadly "The world" has put most if its responsibilities into a lame ducks hand. At least seemingly most countries did.

I know the precursors that led to this war and mostly i agree on them.

In my eyes this outcome is only possible because too many nations let the US fuck or trick them in the last hundred years.

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bless your heart.

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Ah whoopsy, it seems they had another card to play.

Joe Biden announces new US military deployments to Europe:

  1. Permanent headquarters for US 5th Army Corps in Poland;

  2. Deployment of additional rotational brigade to Romania;

  3. Deployment of 2 additional F-35 squadrons to the UK;

  4. Enhanced rotational deployments in Baltics

Guess this post is as retarded as I initially guessed

Since then they've also invited two new countries to NATO, America has sent dozens of river boat, and various nations announced they were sending self propelled guns. Whoopsy

[–]Questionable[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Amazing Sir! You are so correct as always! If allowed, Biden will provide an endless conga line of American corpses, up until and including sparking off Word War III. Anything for the white nationalist, and former province of the USSR that provides them with their bio weapons research!

Let us pray that he sends us to the slaughter house! As we were born to serve the 13 blood lines, and nothing more!

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

endless conga line of American corpses

RF: 35,000+ dead, no more vdv, no more modern tanks, spetznaz gutted

USA: 1 in dnr custody

If Biden is somehow responsible for those numbers, he's doing pretty well. He'll probably win the 2024 elections at this rate

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The Russians "are used to take some" pain. Once the caskets start returning to US-soil, their bobbleheads are in for a lot of pain.

Sitting on a powder keg full of ammunition, explosives and steel balls. Literally.

Because with enough patience of their opposition this pseudo-empire will implode like history almost every fucking time told.

It isn't even an empire. It is a hallucination of their bobbleheads-in-command that just can't let go their obselete "dreams" that were lies in the first place, when they were planted. It is as fake to its "citizens" (slaves actually), as it can be.

Not "explode".

Literally everyone (should) know this. Everyone who ever touched more than one book and actually read it... though.

That's a very oldschool problem with bets. Placing them exposes you for an attack.

So i almost completely agree on your point.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You live in an imaginary world.

caskets start returning to US-soil

Mental. There are 35k russian 'cargo 200' (twice or more that '300') and one single American volunteer captive in peril. Who will be in these caskets that you're imagining?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Once the Russians start to attack US-bases on foreign soil (about 800 "known" if i remember right) with hypersonic ballistic missiles (if they feel inclined to use non-nuclear warheads though) or sink the whole US-American fleet with super-cavitation torpedoes (if they feel inclined to use non-nuclear warheads though).

Or they bomb JSOC into the hell where they belong for their state-terrorism with one small but fast missile.

"Plop": Command structure mostly dead.

("There you got your friendly fire back, asshats." i already can hear Putin laughing...)

Then one missile into the state-department, then NSA headquarters, then Pentagon possibly and so on... plop...plop...plop... it'll most likely go like this. Or all at the same time.

And even If US can hit back... The Russians also have some 50-ish Megaton bombs. The craters of these babies is most probably bigger than Yellowstone.

I won't take responsibility for your blindness from which you draw your judgements from. No matter how baboonish your behavior is.

And then there are China... and India.... Look at a globe... a real one. Not your fakeass googlemaps.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He didn't get any geography lessons, a classic American thing

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh so this is a WW3 fantasy. How childish. Maybe you ought to check what the M in MAD stands for. Look at a real search engine, not your fake yandex

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Keep jerking off to some fakeass porn. Fucking baboon.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're the one jizzing firey nihilist fantasies over a politics chat. Did you check yet what the M stands for? We can wait if you need a minute

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So true Sir! You are never wrong my good friend! With Satan's blessing, Biden shall remain our president! And He has yet to play his final hand! GAME ON!!! We shall beat back the fascists communists with nuclear fire, that shall blanket Earth! It's all or nothing! This is a zero sum game, and we must support Ukraine at all costs!

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (53 children)

This guy thinks a gold import ban is all of America's chips on the table? Lol!

America has a lot of dry powder. Generations of work, preparing a war machine to destroy totalitarian land armies in Europe. USA is just getting started, Putin the warmonger is in for a world of pain.

[–]Insider 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Putin's a warmonger...then what does that make the US?

[–]TarBaby 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Terrorist Warmongers who use drones to murder innocent brown people.

[–]Insider 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget:

  • the global and domestic pedo rings

  • use of biowarfare and bioweapons

  • massacring their own citizens in terrorist plots

  • Assassinating or jailing people for free speech/free thought/having too much knowledge (COININTELPRO, Operation Gladio, Gary Webb, Michael Hastings, Deborah Palfrey, Epstein, McAfee, Assange, Snowden, Manning, Kiriakou, Tom Philpott, Gary Caradori, Max Spiers, Aaron Swartz, MLK, Malcolm-X, Fred Hampton, JFK, Robert Kennedy, Udo Ulfkotte, Andre Vltchek, Isaac Kappy, Tracy Twyman, Andrew Breitbart, Jenny Moore, Beranton Whisenant, Nancy Schaefer, Helena Stoeckley, Greg Mitchell, Prince Beasley, etc.)

  • over throwing numerous governments around the world

  • launching 326k bombs at other countries within the past 70 years

  • spreading illegal drugs to multiple nations to financially support their operations

  • experimenting with deadly diseases on humans

  • mind control experiments on the human population

  • use of torture

  • spreading mass lies and brainwashing the entire world

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, baby, exactly.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

And did ya hear about them Habsburgs! Boy were they some warmongers. Did you have any other comparisons you wanted to make or is there a point here somewhere

[–]Questionable[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

His example came from your statement. Are you controlled opposition? Because we don't need that here. And definitely not this transparent and incompetent at least. Seriously are you just a bad scripting algo? Please stop, please stop hitting yourself.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Bruh it's whataboutism, you're allowed to select any events in all of history. Don't complain to me, those are the rules of the game. See first I say Putin is a warmonger because he's currently involved in a war he mongered and has a few more lined up. Then internet morons get to come up with something, anything from history and say "what about this!"

Like, if you needed examples, you could whatabout Japanese wartime crimes against humanity. Or you could whatabout Mehmet the conqueror - a real, serious warmonger. The guy above picked USA, which I thought was a cheap move, he should have dipped into history a bit - seriously check out them Habsburgs! Real warmongers back turn!

[–]Questionable[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Yes. Everything you say is "whataboutism". You have identified the only tool in your tool kit.

So, when you are pretending to have valid, yet self defeating arguments , am I to play along that you are not a stooge pretending to be opposition? Is it OK, if we break the forth wall and mug at the audience?

Oh, I mean. Take that you very bad villain in forum that I have opposed and defeated, who is a very real person that I have confronted.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Point to where I employed "whataboutism"? You can't because I didn't do any. The post we are responding to says that the G7 nations have taken a final move and have all their chips on the table, concerning russia.

My reply: no they haven't, Putin is still in for a world of pain if he keeps up the warmongering.

That's not whataboutism, it's a direct reply to the content of the tweet we're all looking at. For someone to say "well what about [this other country]" is pure whataboutism.

Truly I am glad that you accused me of it, because that means you're aware it's a bad faith debating technique - the only issue is, you're unable to recognise it, or you see it when it isn't there. So you're half way there. Now go back and re-read u/ insider's comment again and try harder to spot the whataboutism.

[–]Questionable[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

My apologies. What you did was "name calling", in labeling Putin a "war Monger" which takes even less effort than the comparison of whataboutism. I gave you too much credit. The mistake was mine.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Let's see. Has he engendered any wars.

  1. He attacked the apartment buildings in Moscow to build public support for the second chechnyan war.

  2. He went to war with Georgia to steal abkhazia and Ossetia

  3. He started a proxy war with Ukraine to steal luhansk/Donetsk

  4. He joined the Syrian civil war as an Assad proxy

  5. He invaded ukraine again and kicked off one of history's bloodiest wars and then said it was because he wanted to gather Russian lands like Peter the Great.

It's not really name-calling is it. It's an accurate description of a brutal fascist warmonger.

[–]Questionable[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's not really name-calling is it. It's an accurate description of a brutal fascist warmonger.

Yes. of course he did. I now see the error of my way. Please forgive me for living the vile life, that I do. You put those in bullet points. I can not Question these facts. You of all people are the sole authority and arbiter on "War Mongers", Putin's motivations, and every action he has ever taken. And we can not make any comparisons to Iraq, the U.S or Afghanistan , or else "Whataboutism". He truly is the Adolf Hitler of our time.

The super Villain Putin the War Monger is a real thing, and it is our patriotic duty to support Ukraine during our gay pride parades. All hail LGBTQ+ American patriots against Russian tyranny, provided that you support abortions for all birthing people, and are vaccinated, boosted and masked, eating a clean vegan diet, and commuting to work in an environmentally friendly way.

Let me know if there is anything else I can agree with you on. As I may not Question the narrative, as that the bad man has caused inflation, gas price increases, and formula shortages, using is evil plan, that effects our supply line, here in American, with the reach of his evil claws that grasp at our throats.

[–]Insider 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

On a comparative scale, Putin is barely a warmonger. Yes, he militarily invaded Ukraine, which was already taken over in 2014 by a US-backed coup filled with neo-Nazis. G7 is also supporting this war they instigated, which also makes them warmongers. Except Russia's only focused on this one conflict while US and allies (or the globalists) are focused on hundreds of conflicts.

"Whataboutism" or perspective.

Comparatively speaking US and allies = Satan. Putin = an angry ant on the side of the road. But you mad at the ant and not the fucking devil.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

2014 by a US-backed coup

That's russian propaganda, it's not true, I have been asking people for evidence for years and all I get directed to is the transcript of ambassador nuland. Which doesn't say any such thing. Do you have any evidence that that is true?

G7 is also supporting this war they instigated, which also makes them warmongers

They're giving weapons so that an oppressed people can defend themselves against imperialist rapist orcs. A bit different.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Warmaster

[–]NuclearBadger 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

You're so off the mark it's a bit sus.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It's laughably off the mark for OP to suggest that with this gold import ban, the west took a "final move" that puts "all chips on the table". It's a bit sus in how dumb a take it is. The free world can and will keep up the pressure on Putin until he and his fascist new world order finally kick the can. Like - at least if you're going to be this stupid - hold off until the pending Madrid NATO summit until you call a "final move" from the alliance.

[–]Dunwidit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What fucking free world?

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The one the tweet is accusing of having put "all chips on the table" and having taken a "final move". Wasn't it obvious from context?

[–]Dunwidit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's obvious that you think some place in the world is still free... It's obvious in the context that you believe somebody is on our side. It's obvious from the context that you think the United States is not part of this whole fucking thing. So yes from the context it's obvious.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Alright so just from the perspective of checking your reading comprehension.

When the dumb op tweet says the G7 have taken a "final move".

And I reply that [some group] have plenty of dry powder yet.

Are you okay with parsing that as - the [some group] in my comment probably refers to the G7 in op's tweet. Like, is that a chain of causality you're able to follow? Because it looks like you're struggling with basic comprehension and I just want to check we're all on the same page here

[–]Dunwidit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will confess that I very much, way too often, recently find myself having knee-jerk reactions to things because I'm so fucking over it. If I misunderstood, my full apologies. I did however read (some group) as you believing or stating, the United States was above, somehow, the evil that's being globally perpetuated. We're the muscle, London has the banks, Vatican the opiate of the masses... And the rest of the globe (ALMOST) entirely are the pawns and tools of those three "institutions" and I'm at the point now where I see it all as being the 10 jelly beans with the one that will kill you. I ain't got time to sort it out... I ain't eating any fucking jelly beans. Also I should mention that I'm working with about a sixth grade education over here... At the river with the fam so I will go back and read read what you posted and will probably hang my head in shame as a result.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your lack of understanding of economics is impressive. The US empire is based on a world tax founded in the use of the US dollar as the world reserve currency, that which is used in almost all international trade. By making this move, the world is forced to choose to side with either the USA, the bully that's been in wars what, 275 of the last 285 years? Some shit like that. Anyway, forcing the entire world to buy US dollars is a tax of sorts that enables the USA to print ungodly amounts of this fake money without destroying it.

But now that the world is forced to choose, they aren't choosing the warmongering bully. The end of the dollar as the world reserve currency, which is being helped along by this latest "all chips down" move, truly is "all chips down". Because it will keep OR BREAK the US dollar. And the world has chosen to end the US empire. Nethanyahu said, "We hate the USA so very much, and you know what we do with nations we hate? We destroy them. Slowly. But we destroy them so thoroughly that there is only dust left after we are done." Or something close to that, I am paraphrasing.

This is coming true now. The world is de-dollarizing. The USD is finished. Give it the rest of the decade to take its last, death-rattle breath. And with a destroyed currency, guess what? That vaunted "US wealth" exists no more. Dust. It's all turning to dust.

[–]Site_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hello, could you please explain what you mean?

  1. Why does the G7's gold import ban force all other nations to pick a side?

  2. What does a gold import ban have to do with the dollar as reserve currency?

Honestly, to be honest, a lot of your comment here seems to be totally made up nonsense. As Ariel Sharon once said, 'please, spare me your teenage trite bollocks and link to some sources that explain what you mean, which should be really simple for you, who has such a big brain you can go around calling "impressive" other people's lack of knowledge.' - I'm paraphrasing here, which is code for, I totally made it up.

[–]Questionable[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This isn't a NATO matter, as Ukraine is no member. This isn't a G7 matter as they've just painted themselves into a corner, shutting off Russian Gold, fertilizer, grains and petrol from their own markets. Speaking of War mongers. it's you. You're the blood thirsty war monger in this thread. Now get fucked. Call up your broker. He's first in line for you gang bang. You're mamma gets sloppy seconds.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This isn't a NATO matter, as Ukraine is no member

Right but it doesn't make sense to talk about a "final move" from the west when the coming Madrid summit has a couple of fun announcements. Wouldn't they be closer to a "final move"

This isn't a G7 matter as

You mean the G7 matter in the tweet we're replying to isn't a G7 matter? What

Speaking of War mongers. it's you

Wow news to me! There's only one war I get behind, and that's the defensive war being fought by the heroes of Ukraine who are removing fascist rapist orcs from their occupation. Is it warmongering when you want an oppressed people to be free? Then sign me up!

[–]choppedlettuce 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think the "all the chips on the table" statement is to characterize the entirety of US decisions regarding Ukraine since 2014. Not just the gold ban...

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ok so if this tweet is right, US is totally out of moves. No more agency in the whole affair.

So whatever America does next, it can't be blamed for - after all, America's decision making is exhausted, whatever happens next is not America's contemporary decision making. They are out moves with all chips on the table. Which means that however Biden reacts next is not America's doing.

It's an interesting perspective. It kind of absolves them of any blame in actions taken after this tweet, which looks to be around 26 hours old now if I am reading right.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wow. So Biden is absolved of all repercussions of the actions he may take after this tweet 26 hours ago, because he has no more actions he can take. Your intellect is truly stunning and without equal. We can literally start World War III now, assured in the fact that America will take zero responsibility for Biden's actions. Clearly I had no idea how important this tweet was. Thanks for putting it into perspective for me.

Take that you dirty Fascists!

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's a question. Do you agree or disagree? Why or why not?

After all - you're the OP - it's you making the statement here that the west have no further agency in this conflict.

If there are no further cards to play - then when I think I see America playing a card or taking a decision, am I mistaken? How can America be taking more decisions - they're out of moves, according to you. Explain yourself.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

OH, I am in totally agreement now with whatever you are saying. This is your thread now. Whichever way you lean, I mimic you, like a trusted follower. I don't explain myself. I follow, you lead. Everything you say in this thread is gospel to me now.

You say that tweet is the turning point of global events, I simply repeat back what you have said, only more assuredly, as you are without Question, here in YOUR thread.

You define reality, I only submit to your whims Sir.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is this the first time you've had to engage like an adult on the internet? Or does it normally go like this?

I make a point and ask whether you agree or disagree. And you respond with childish sarcasm and more links to cartoons and kids movies.

Would you like another opportunity to behave like a grown up? Because I can ask again. Do you agree or disagree with my statement, and why?

I think if you once more reply with silly sarcasm and cartoons then it'll be pretty clear to everyone that you're not capable of stringing two thoughts together. Engage with the questions being asked, or else go watch a movie or something

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm just letting you know, I am here to support you sir! I agree with every talking point you are making in this thread. Bar none.

You think I should go watch a movie now sir? I will! Thank you for giving me your permission to watch a picture show!

[–]choppedlettuce 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't understand your point. You either agree or disagree with the "all the chips are in play" statement. If America does something else after, then clearly not all chips are in play. I disagree with the statement that America is out of moves to make, but I agree with the sentiment that it seems like America has played all of its low hanging fruit moves.

[–]Dunwidit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. I don't even have words for how stupid what you just said is... You can't possibly believe what you just said can you?

[–]Questionable[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

America has a lot of dry powder. Generations of work, preparing a war machine to destroy totalitarian land armies in Europe.

K.

Putin the warmonger is in for a world of pain.

You uh... Put those both in the same paragraph hugh? That itching inside your brain. That's cognitive dissonance consuming your brain cells in a suicidal cascade state of failure. Good luck with that!

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Oh is this your first time learning about the US military? Have fun, one of my favourite bits is, that they the world's first, second and third largest air forces. And any of those planes might be given to the freedom fighters of Ukraine! Exciting isn't it, that's why I called it "dry powder" - Putin the fascist warmonger has a lot more trouble coming than just a gold ban

[–]Questionable[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, sir! They can completely take over the world with zero effort! Why if Biden says so, they will crush all opposition, sweeping across Russia like a plaque! Brovo Sir! This shall be are finest hour!

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

LOL the US generals sure showed those illiterate barbarians in Afghanistan, eh? Kicked their asses with those three air forces!

Oh wait they lost.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Twenty year occupation of a landlocked mountainous country on the other side of the planet. (Most of that time with almost no popular will powering the military machine). With a fraction of the casualties of just the few months war in Ukraine already. Yeah it ought to worry the Russians. Lend lease has already passed - this can drift out of American focus and the states will still be sending a trillion dollars in weaponry just on autopilot. And it will take political will to revoke - just like the embargo of Cuba. Yeah it ought to worry the Russians.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

They lost

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Lost would be, afghans waving the Taliban flag on the mall outside Congress with the commander in chief's severed head rolling down the steps before the big Lincoln statue.

In reality they pulled out, chased out it's fair to say, but in a way that should still give America's enemies pause. If your point is that the Russian army has nothing to worry about because of Afghanistan then your friends on snake island will tell you, that's very wrong

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The same incompetent generals are in still in charge. The ones who couldn't beat a bunch of illiterate goat-fuckers with AKs are going to take on a technical military and win? LOL no.

See, this is why you're a troll and not an actual neocon warmonger. Neocons are pissed that the US lost the war in Afghanistan and want to start it again.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

incompetent generals are in still in charge

They maintained a 20 year occupation of a landlocked country in the mountains with no political will behind them. They did pretty well. And Ukraine will do a lot better on their home turf

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Pretty well? They lost

Why aren't you super pissed off by this and calling for a re-invasion? That's what neocon warmongers do.

[–]RedditExPat69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've read stuff like this before, here and elsewhere, and there are never citations nor does anything ever happen that's predicted.

[–]peety 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bullshit. just two more weeks and it will all fall apart.