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[–]package 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No, I'm saying that's the absolute bare minimum anyone could possibly consider a fetus to be. My opinion is that it is a human life. We have essentially no understanding of what exactly consciousness is or where it comes from, and until we do any claim of a specific stage at which it begins to exist is only a guess. And still you have not made any case for why it should be a federal right to kill the organism in question.

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    [–]package 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    WHY SHOULD IT BE A FEDERAL RIGHT TO KILL SOMETHING

    [–]Insider 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Like you said, we can't claim at which specific stage the fetus begins to exist, so we may not be killing something. I guess that uncertainty needs to be weighed against the right to ruin a woman's life.

    We both know that if this type of situation happened to most male Republicans, they'd choose to abort.

    Notice how the GOP is focused on stupid no abortion policies (which will just lead to more dangerous illegal abortions) rather than trying to tackle the biggest reason for abortion (financial distress).

    The overturning of Roe vs Wade also doesn't happen without the establishment say so. This whole thing is a ploy.

    [–]Zapped 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think this is at the center of the debate. When does life begin? I don't think most pro-choicers think they are killing a human life. Most pro-lifers think they are. I am not religious, but the moment I saw my son in the delivery room, I changed my opinion on abortion. The scientific community draws the line for a fertilized egg at 14 days for ethical reasons.