A hostile military alliance expanding to Russia’s borders isn’t a provocation, sending weapons to be used by CIA-trained fighters backed by US intelligence isn’t a proxy war, those Nazis aren’t Nazis, you’re being censored for your own good, trust the media, the government is your friend.

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This is dumb. Like one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on the internet. NATO didn't expand by force. The eastern countries wanted to join NATO and did so willingly because of a history of Russian aggression. All those countries joined NATO because of what Russia had done to them in the past.

[–]portace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

they joined because their politicians are compromised by child rape blackmail

There's a reason every NATO nation has a systemic government pedo problem

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I'm sure that's the reason and not, you know, Russia invading and either occupying, either directly or via puppet governments, those countries for half a century.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And of course you have the proof.

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty much self-admitted. Is there a reason I shouldn't trust politicians, MSM and intelligence agencies?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Henry Kissinger and many others warned that there would be a war if the US kept provoking Russia and expanding up to its borders. And now it's happened.

Seriously, you actually listen to the blob when it tells you what happened? Why? You trust them about wars? How about that Libya war? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? Shall I continue?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Only people ignorant of Russia's history with it's neighbors think those countries joined NATO because of US aggression.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

OK, I'll bite: why did this war happen?

I know already, I'm just curious if you're going to go with "BECUZ MUH PUTIN IS EVULLLL!" which is what's being peddled by the NATO/US establishment.

Given their track record of lying about wars, how are they trustworthy?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Putin's doing the same shit he always does. Feeds Russians living in foreign countries a heavy helping of bullshit propaganda to get them to rebel against the government of the country they're in. He's done it in Georgia, Ukraine, Moldovia, and Estonia so far. Possibly others i'm forgetting.

Why do you think the war happened? Some insane theory about bio-labs?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You didn't actually say why. You just said what.

It sounded a lot like what's coming out of the media establishment. What's their track record for being trustworthy?