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[–]BravoVictor 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Affordable housing", Democrat's favorite propaganda term that means the opposite of what it sounds.

"We're going to make homes and force local developers to sell them for less than they're worth, to owners who won't be able to afford the upkeep on them. They'll eventually become abandoned, a hotspot for crime, and have to be torn down. But don't worry, we'll call them affordable!"

[–]jet199 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The joke is affordable housing usually isn't in any way affordable. They just build a bunch of shoe boxes which are still horrendously over priced.

[–]Canbot 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Projects like this are doomed to cause more harm than good because the people they are pretending to help have no incentive to do better. Instead it is throwing fuel on a fire by rewarding horrible lifestyles that hurt everyone around them.

Welfare programs should come with counseling, monitoring, rules, and individualized plans for improvement.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The trouble is that such programmes usually end up penalising people who are just on them via bad luck.

I was on such a programme in my early twenties. They were like "so lets draw up a plan together. Do you think you could check the jobs adds one day a week. Which day of the week is good for you?" and I was like "I already check them 5 or 6 times a day online". I literally got a "wtf??" face back at me. They will pull you down to the level of professional wasters with their low expectations. Sometimes they even penalise you for doing well. I know someone who got their benefits stopped for rearranging an appointment with them so they could attend a job interview. Luckily they got the job.

The state doesn't suddenly become magically better at organising people's lives when it's power is directed at poor people.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You are the exception and even if the system doesn't fit you it doesn't hurt either. Since you are already looking for a job what harm is it if someone makes sure you are looking for a job?

As far as losing benefits for skipping an appointment, they could have scheduled the job interview at a different time or made sure it was OK to skip the appointment. Everyone who fails to live up to thier side of the bargain will have excuses but that doesn't mean the bargain isn't fair or necessary.

[–]xanaxagoras 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not to mention a fixed lifetime maximum benefit, like say 36 months total for welfare.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are already limits like that on unemployment benefits, but I don't see that working for people who never had a job and can't get one even with counseling. Some people are unemployable. But I agree that it is important to find a way to disincentivize people from refusing to work. In particular those who claim welfare but then pan handle or work off the books. I would try offering rewards to people who can prove welfare fraud and blacklist those who scam the system.

But those are nuanced solutions and we aren't even trying to fix the system. So it's all just safety regulations in a dream.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Just cause he's black doesn't mean he wants to lose money. Probably doesn't want black neighbors either.

[–]IkeConn 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Damn. Even Chappelle is a NIMBY.

[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Democrats: slaps roof of affordable housing You can fit so many negroes in here!