China hasn't been a Communist country for decades, and most people have no idea what Communist economic theory actually is. Lucky for you I'm here to help

submitted by AntarchomachusAnarchist from self.politics

Communism is an economic theory, it has nothing to do with Fascism, with which it is often conflated (although the most well known communist regimes WERE fascist ill admit).

Communism is simply this: Public rather than Private ownership of the means of production

Communists disagree on who the 'public' is. Leninists, Maoists and other state-centered communists think the 'government' is the public. Some think this means the unions should own the businesses, and some think they ought to be community co-ops.

In China, private individuals own corporations - Think Jack Ma and Alibaba. This is not Communism by any stretch of the imagination. It is Capitalism

Yes, state-centered communism always fails, because it devolves into Fascism. When you combine the power of the state with the power of business in one entity, you have a recipe for totalitarian control.

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[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You run way too much on the theorical idea of Communism. Which is mostly utopian. Communism from the very beggining was always intented to be a system of slavery, going way back to the Jesuit Empire in Latin America.

Communism was developed from the ascetic ideals of Joachim of Fiore, which the Jesuits have something of a fixation for. It is a way of forced deranged monkery. Capitalism, which the Jesuits also developed isn't such a different system from it too. In fact, my own belief is that the regimes we have known as communism have all been super-capitalist systems. Anthony Sutton wrote about how communist systems were funded by capitalists.

The Jesuits used the Rothschilds in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution. So not only can they be held accountable for the millions of kills under the communist regime, but they also supported the fascist and anti-Semitic movements in Europe at the same time in order to blame the Jews for creating communism. Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the Cheka, KGB and FSB.

Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was influential in Mao’s views and Chinese Intelligence as well. Teilhard was the most influential philosopher behind the globalist and capitalist movement. Even today, The Vatican is influential and has close ties to the Chinese government.

Read up about their role in the far-right and far-left dictatorships and the original Jesuit Communist Empire in Latin America over here when you have time.

"Wherever a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Fascist, a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'adviser' or leader; in Cuba it was Jesuit-trained Castro's 'Father' Armando Llorente..."

Emanuel M. Josephson.

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Capitalism, which the Jesuits also developed

What? Capitalism in its basic form, as exchanging money for goods and services, has been around far longer than the Jesuits. Even the modern definition started in the 15th century, whereas the Jesuits were founded in the 16th century.

The Jesuits used the Rothschilds in order to fund the Bolshevik revolution.

That doesn't make any sense. The Rothschilds are everyone's favorite pro-capitalism, pro-globalist, pro-corporatist boogeyman, secretly running everything the West from behind the scenes, but they're also the original funders for the Soviets?

Are they Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia? Playing both sides so they always come out on top?

[–]HibikiBlack 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I meant capitalism in the modern, globalist sense. All the more during the Social Darwinist movement.

The Roths funding the Bolsheviks and the Jesuits being allowed back into Russia in 1922 are historical facts...

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. They experimented with "real" communism, and everyone started starving. So they abandoned all the economic aspects of communism and mostly embraced free trade, but kept the one-party authoritarian rule that most communist countries develop out of a need to forcibly redistribute wealth.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A coloring book and fuzzy platitudes is not much of a theory.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

China is communist. China is facing. China is totalitarian. You are an idiot.