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[–]OrionBlastar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Frogs can change genders with the right chemicals: https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2002/04/16/531726.htm

People can change genders with the right hormone treatments and operations.

[–]Flicksener 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No they can't.

1) Unlike these frogs, women can't develop testes and men can't develop ovaries, no matter how many treatments and operations they undergo.

2) These frogs developed hermaphroditic (both genders) characteristics as a result of being exposed to a harmful poison, they didn't change from one gender into another willy nilly. This is a deformity, not a treatment, and likely led to many health issues and untimely deaths for the poor frogs. It's not a good thing.

And 3) humans are not frogs. Different species, entirely different biology.

Please, for the love of god, learn some science, specifically about biology.

[–]OrionBlastar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you are saying that gender is not a social construct?

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You are using the word gender in 2 ways to confuse the issue, to mean both biological sex and social sex roles.

You could say social sex roles are a social construct but biological sex is real and observable by every person (and animal).

Biological sex in humans or any mammal can not be changed.

The fact you have to look at frogs for an example shows how far off the possibility of sex change is in humans.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wouldn't even concede that point concerning sex roles. Roles are so consistent across cultures, polarisation only increasing as equality increases, it seems reasonable to claim that biology is by far the biggest factor.

Where we go see shifts towards homogenisation of sex roles tends to be as a result of technology (e.g. birth control, weapons, mechanisation).

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

By roles I would mean things like wearing dresses or trousers not instinctive behaviour like fighting or caring.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, fully agree there. Thanks.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender and sex are synonymous and immutable. Gender roles are a social construct.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Men and women have both testosterone and estrogen in their systems. Giving them more of one just means you are medically inducing a hormone disorder, not changing their sex.

Gender reassignment surgery is a disaster and suicide rates good up massively after it because it's so bad. Check out s/neovaginadisasters . It's nothing like a real reproductive system, just a bad parody.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I can't even imagine the kind of person who wants to have sex with a gaping wound.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One thing the trans trend has made apparent is just how many in denial gay men are out there and and how far they'll go to keep lying to themselves.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You ever think about how much gay child rape Tinder and Grinder facilitate? I mean, as soon as a child thinks they might be gay they can use an app to get an almost instant partner to sodomize them.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't even need an app.

Most vulnerable boys will be approached in places like public toilets long before they can even question it themselves.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh man. I want to puke now. Thanks. Blergh.

[–]BravoVictor[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People are not frogs.

Many species of animals also eat their children. Should we eat our children?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

that was based on jurrassic park, a fictional story, those frogs can't actually give birth so aren't really females

[–]BravoVictor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No, that part's true, actually. A Berkeley research paper found that certain pesticide runoff fucks up frog hormones. That's what Alex Jones was referring to by his often mocked, "They're turning the frogs gay!", comment.

Where he's wrong is thinking that:

  1. human biology works that same as frog biology
  2. ingesting chemicals that distort natural hormones is good for frogs or humans

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

gay is not the same as a female that can give birth

[–]BravoVictor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

To you and I maybe. But to the left-wing, a biological male who's consumed a ton of chemicals that makes him attracted to the opposite sex and want to cross-dress, and then demand everyone call him female, is effectively the same as "gay".

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's called pseudo-homosexuality and it's not due to the hormones. It's a symptom of their autogynephilia. They think if they get a supposedly straight guy to have sex with them then it affirms they are really a woman which turns them on more than actual sex does.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

ok well stop defending them it's just a mental problem

[–]BravoVictor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not defending them. I'm just explaining their crazy thinking.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

stop doing that