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[–]Feldheld 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Why do people think that the media are losing trust? I dont get it. Since the COVID-scare begun in 2020 the media have GAINED massive trust! Never have so many viewed the media as a literal church!

Sure, a lot of people distrust the media, probably more than before. But the number of people who have become radical followers of the media church is about 50% in the USA and much much higher, in the 70%-80% in Europe and many other places in the world.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

No one taught them how to do independent research on the Interwebs.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it's hard to say what their ratings are really like, they might be lying, but do you know anyone that watches CNN? Maybe that's cord cutting but then does anyone follow CNN online, like going to their twitter or youtube pages? I heard about the lincoln project thing not cuz of CNN but cuz of this site.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They're also fake news. People don't like it when you try to bend facts to your opinions, just tell them how it is.

[–]The_Mad_PirateRepublican Party 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People don't like it when you try to bend facts to your opinions, just tell them how it is.

Oh Boy ! And do we have a lot of that nowadays ! It seems like a constant state of affairs now.

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, even my brainwashed far-left sister knows not to trust CNN.

However, she then trusts even more far-left dishonest news sources because they simply don't have a track record yet...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

what are the far left sources she likes?

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

MSNBC, Salon, Huffington Post, Buzzfeed, etc.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh damn I thought it might be something not so mainstream

[–]wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have to read their "debunkings" to fully appreciate how impenetrable they are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/27/five-conspiracy-theories-that-remain-unproven-despite-what-you-might-have-heard/

The Hunter Biden laptop. Shortly before last year’s election, the New York Post reported that a laptop belonging to Joe Biden’s son Hunter had been handed over to Trump’s attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani. The Post picked out some emails from the trove of documents, ones suggesting obliquely that the Democratic presidential nominee was in some way connected to his son’s business activities. (This, of course, was a focus of the effort to defend Trump during his first impeachment in 2019.)

That report spurred an unusual reaction. Social media companies, concerned about having been vectors for Russian misinformation in 2016, limited the sharing of the Post’s story. This was framed by the right as being an effort to protect Biden (though the allegations being made were unlikely to significantly affect a campaign centered on Trump’s own popularity), but, at the time, was instead generally presented by the tech companies as a question of provenance. If the laptop was seeded by Russian intelligence, for example, should it be elevated in the national conversation?

That question is a difficult one to answer, but there was good reason to ask it. The story of how Giuliani obtained the laptop was itself unusual, centered on a device being left at a store in Delaware years before. There was also a report from Time indicating that some of the material found on the laptop had been circulating in Ukraine in 2019, during a period when Giuliani was actively seeking dirt on Biden. Had Russia managed to hack Hunter Biden’s online accounts to obtain material? Was Giuliani being duped? That he picked the Post to report on the laptop out of concern that other outlets might “spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out” didn’t engender confidence.

When Politico last week reported that some of the emails included in the Post’s reporting had been verified by a reporter, critics of the decision to mute the Post’s reporting heralded the news as vindication. Here was evidence that this wasn’t misinformation after all!

But again, the idea that what was being shared might have been edited or invented was only part of the decision. The question wasn’t simply one of misinformation but one of Russian intervention. The release of material by WikiLeaks in 2016 was similarly accused of being fake, but the broader issue that emerged was whether an effort already linked to Russia at that point should have been incorporated into election coverage. Much of the response last year centered on that same question. Twitter’s rationale for limiting its spread, for example, indicated that it might violate rules against sharing “content obtained through hacking that contains private information.” That some of the emails were legitimate doesn’t actually prove that initial response to have been unwarranted, nor does it prove that the genesis of the information wasn’t dubious.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

American news being fucked is nothing new. I'm still annoyed that Reuters adopted a paywall - they were the ones I trusted the most.

[–]The_Mad_PirateRepublican Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He forgot Anderson Cooper who interned for a year at the CIA.

Also, Operation Mockingbird.