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[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

because society owns that too

Yes you can. Nobody would care if you live in the wilderness.

"Which should change. Why do you like tyranny?"

No it shouldn't. What is tyranny to you is order to me. What is liberty to you is disorder and chaos to me.

"Or we can agree to disagree and if two parties can't manage to get along they should avoid each other. "

Sure, that is a great idea...only what if the issue is so contentious and fundamental that you cannot avoid each other? Like what if some ring of perverts decides to organise a gay parade in my city, and I would rather the city were to turn into ashes then have them desecrate its ground.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes you can. Nobody would care if you live in the wilderness.

Did you know it's illegal to live off the grid? And I'd still have to pay my taxes and worship society.

No it shouldn't. What is tyranny to you is order to me. What is liberty to you is disorder and chaos to me.

But what does order accomplish except to benefit the elites?

Sure, that is a great idea...only what if the issue is so contentious and fundamental that you cannot avoid each other? Like what if some ring of perverts decides to organise a gay parade in my city, and I would rather the city were to turn into ashes then have them desecrate its ground.

Only it's NOT your city. A city is made up of thousands of separate properties, of which you own only a tiny fraction of. What other people do with theirs you have no right to dictate. Especially for something as petty as you not liking it. I also find it interesting how you are almost exclusively obsessed with gays and "men dressing like women".

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Did you know it's illegal to live off the grid?" What? Not where I live.

"But what does order accomplish except to benefit the elites?" Benefits everyone else who are happy to live a quite life? To me, stability and predictability is the ultimate value. Stability is the soul of prosperity. Those who rock the boat damage that stability threaten that prosperity: my prosperity.

"I also find it interesting how you are almost exclusively obsessed with gays and "men dressing like women"." This is what bothers me most in the West. Those kinds of abominations. I would also want to eradicate Abrahamic religions, but given the choice of one, I would prioritize preventing LGBT/feminism etc.

"A city is made up of thousands of separate properties" What has property to do with anything? It is a city of thousands of INDIVIDUALS you wanted to say? I agree. It is not only up to me to decide. It is up to the whole crowd. If the crowd (society) agrees on something then the few non-conformists should go fuck themselves.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Benefits everyone else who are happy to live a quite life? To me, stability and predictability is the ultimate value. Stability is the soul of prosperity. Those who rock the boat damage that stability threaten that prosperity: my prosperity.

You are the one who is interrupting others' quiet lives. I don't wish to bother you, you wish to invade my life and force me to conform. My mere existence does not affect you unless I start bothering you, so why do you care? I am not rocking the boat.

This is what bothers me most in the West. Those kinds of abominations. I would also want to eradicate Abrahamic religions, but given the choice of one, I would prioritize preventing LGBT/feminism etc.

Because you don't like it. You have no right to do this. If they bother you, you absolutely have the right to tell them to get out of your face unlike our media tells you, although doing so for no reason would be incredibly mean; but that's all you get to do, control your own life, not theirs. For some reason I'm not surprised you hate Christianity too, even as corrupt as it is in its modern form.

It is up to the whole crowd. If the crowd (society) agrees on something then the few non-conformists should go fuck themselves.

Which is why capitalism is superior. It allows imcompatible types to peacefully coexist, unlike socialism where everyone has to be the same. You are basically advocating for an Orwellian dystopia. And even Orwell was a leftist.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"My mere existence does not affect you unless I start bothering you" True. Innocent until proven guilty. As long as I don't see or hear you breaking social norms I wouldn't care.

"I'm not surprised you hate Christianity too" Why should I like it? A antihuman religion of bronze age savages.

"Which is why capitalism is superior. " Capitalism refers to the control over means of production. Private or public. It has nothing to do with social norms.