Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]thefirststone 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Respect for traditions.

American tradition is, at its ideal, Jeffersonion. This is opposed to centralization and empire.

If we return to tradition, as we should, then the state would be razed to fertilize liberty, not to build up stinking fortifications for new tyrants under the banner of "security".

Strangely, these are all thoughts developed by Europeans in Europe, but embraced by the decedents of those who might have a chance at implementing it.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't envy you. I value security and stability above short term personal freedom. You seem to have a fetish with "liberty" and "democracy". I myself would much rather if the president (or the emperor if you like) weren't elected my the masses, but appointed by the previous ruler. In the US, you constantly have unpredictable elections that could go either way adding much anxiety. Not only that, but the winner usually wins within a margin of error. Honestly, if you think that a president should be elected by the people, then nobody who gets under at least 2/3 of the votes has the legitimacy to rule over others.

[–]thefirststone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't put words into my mouth.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you explain please. I never meant to.