Where are all the conservative socialists in the West?

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[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Same place as libertarians. The human instinct us vs them mentality created two tribes and they happen to be liberals and conservatives. Very few arrive at their own conclusions, politics for the vast majority of people is about tribal loyalty.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The issue is that this arrangement is unique to the west. Where I live, we have the total opposite situation: we have liberal capitalists and conservative socialists (the majority). The are some liberal socialists but I am yet to meet a conservative capitalist.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Different countries are going to have different circumstances. But the fundamental workings and human nature are universal.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, I understand that, but I was under the impression that you were saying that conservative socialism is somehow against human nature.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No, in fact it's the most in line with human nature (and both are almost pure evil). It's atypical to have more than two major tribes, at least late in the game like the west is. It's all about us vs them, not policies.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah. Yes. That does make sense. I just find this particular alignment weird.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wonder what you base this on. In Canada we have at least 4 major political parties. In most European parties they also have many, to the point where they have multiple-round elections. The two party system is a USA only particularity.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, but they still tend to cluster. The enemy of my enemy is my friend according to humans.