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[–]IamCleaver[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Municipalities with more freedom? I am all for it. One question though: who will help out poor communities? Who will guarantee that a rich community shares its wealth with the rest? Who will build high-speed trains and other large-scale infrastructure that benefits the whole nation? Who will maintain the military?...you get the point: we need a strong central government non the less. If I were American though, I would advocate for reducing the rights of States and increasing the rights of municipalities while keeping the central government intact.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

One question though: who will help out poor communities?

Excellent questions. It's not meant to be simply fixed.

Another question: Who will take the boot off the necks of poor communities?

Who needs such a huge obscene military? Only industrial death.

Who needs high-speed consumerism?

Who needs toxic environments?

Who needs taxes?

Tyrants.

we need a strong central government non the less.

Yes/no.

If I were American though, I would advocate for reducing the rights of States and increasing the rights of municipalities while keeping the central government intact.

Interesting idea.

How's this suit you?:

Weakest: National
Weak: State
Strongest: County & Municipal

All the strong county and municipalities would need to co-operate together at the state and then national levels. We're no longer limited to the time it takes to ride a horse to another state, so communicating and organizing with modern tech is instant. Unified cooperative regions with strength create a strong state. Unified cooperative states with strength create a strong nation.

Despite all the bullshit, most Americans have more in common with each other than with others around the world. The propaganda makes folks loose sight of this. Rather than focusing on all this divisive bullshit, we'd have to try to focus on unity for strength.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

"Tyrants." Sounds like a straw man.

"How's this suit you?:" Not really. I would want to live in a unified nation. I would prefer something like this:

Strongest: National

Weakest: State

Strong: Municipality

If I were American, I would want unify the criminal code for all states and hand the authority over it to the central government. Same for education standards. Healthcare, universities and highways should be handles by the States, but that is pretty much it.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I would want unify the criminal code for all states and hand the authority over it to the central government.

Ripe for rampant abuses.

/s/DecentralizeAllThings and collectively create universal standards to measure things so everyone everywhere can benefit from "uniformity" that way, rather than from central command.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

"Ripe for rampant abuses." How so? Most countries manage to do with a single, nation-wide legal system just fine. "...collectively..." That is what the national parliament is for.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Your blind faith in the system is unsettling.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You blind faith in the market is unsettling.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I do not have faith in the market either.

I am skeptical of all things.

There is no "free market". Silk Road was hunted and killed.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"There is no "free market"."Very true. That is why I support tight government regulations.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think when talking about the USA anyway, you are lacking in understanding of the mentality of the people there. Remember, they have riots at walmart on Black Friday. You don't see that anywhere else. It's a very particular place.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I would like to hear which country you are from to have these views.

But suffice it to say that power corrupts. The people need to keep A VERY STRONG GRIP on their officials or else, totalitarianism ensues. Look at Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the UK, France, and soon EVERYWHERE... Tyranny.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Russia. It is a pretty common world view here. It seems to be almost absent in the West from what I have gathered.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

In my view, you can only allow a central government to be strong if the nation has a strong, nationalist leader. In most of the world, there are no leaders at all, so there can't be a strong central government because in such a case, it quickly becomes the representative of the rich and already powerful, and tyranny ensues. This is what is happening in most of the world right now.

As such, the only solution for most nations is direct democracy such as there was in Lybia before it got "liberated" by evil. In Russia you are lucky to have such a leader at this crucial moment in your national history. Hopefully he is a true nationalist and not a sellout to the subhuman parasites that ruin everything.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

a strong, nationalist leader

Is only ever a figurehead.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Genghis Khan was a figurehead huh. Damn.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Genghis Khan was a figurehead huh.

Yes he was.

Without his legions of followers, establishment systems, political landscape, and various opportunities, he would have been just a solo rampaging lunatic if he wanted to slaughter throngs of people. He didn't just decide to do that on a madman's whim though - the political climate, opportunities, and support were there and he with his trusted advisors navigated their conquests.

If you don't see than then you are just another megalomaniac idol worshiper in the cult of personality.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Again you are coming back with collectivistic, nihilistic and borderline communist rhetoric. "There is no leader. The proletariat is leading."

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Again you are coming back with collectivistic, nihilistic and borderline communist rhetoric. "There is no leader. The proletariat is leading."

Bullshit.

I'm saying the ruling class is leading.

And I'm pointing out that regardless whoever the fuck is "in charge" - there's always a mob with a system supporting them. They just happen to be at the front, but they sure aren't heroically steering the whole thing themselves.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

"you can only allow a central government to be strong if the nation has a strong, nationalist leader." True. The system should promote strong nationalist leaders.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The only system that did was that of the NSDAP in the first half of the XXth century Germany.

[–]IamCleaver[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Time to try again. This time, lets keep it civil.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In the USA, the Federal government is pure evil. Moreso than most places.