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[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

tolkien rolling in his grave

how could anyone possibly have a problem with this. CANT WAIT to hear this explanation.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

he was based as hell.

tho I admit the orcs were meant to symbolize black people, so they could have still had black actors in this and have it make sense.

[–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

he was based as hell.

tho I admit the orcs were meant to symbolize black people, so they could have still had black actors in this and have it make sense.

wow you certainly cleared that up in an intelligent way as usual!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

facts hurt eh

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Orcs are not meant to symbolize black people. Show me where Tolkien says that.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

entire saga is about traditional europe being overrun by savages

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Show me where Tolkien says this?

You have retarded views that Tolkien himself debunked.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

go read the books not tolkien interviews, he didn't want to talk about his books or explAIN THE MEANING WHIC

sorry for caps, but which I respect him for.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Read his Letters compilation. He clearly debunks your views.

Also, read the opening to LOTR where he talks about applicability being better and more worthwhile than allegory, and that LOTR is applicability not allegory.

You describe an allegory.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

didn't debunk the views

tolkien has based views and was against race mixing, you could say he was a product of his time I guess, but it was a good time and we should go back to it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm going to make a new thread and fucking shove his words down your throat.

You are dumb old person, I hope you know that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"It is a mark of evil things that came in the Great Darkness that they cannot abide the Sun; but Saruman's Orcs can endure it, even if they hate it. I wonder what he has done? Are they Men he has ruined, or has he blended the races of Orcs and Men? That would be a black evil!"

based!

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Could have been taking about American tourists.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

would have mordor be to the west then

at the end they get on a boat and head to the new world to the west, it represents heaven. Yeah I think tolkien was pro America.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stupid comment.

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    [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    everybody on the left is a victim

    not true at all, but im neither because aligning with a 'side' is stupidity. also, youre wrong as fuck on this:

    KKK=BLM

    we at least got riots and murders and shit with blm. this is what a modern kkk rally looks like:

    https://youtu.be/cmiBZ_PSuu8

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      [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      as usual, that has nothing to do with what i posted. i cant imagine missing the point more there.

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        [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        you specifically said,'kkk=blm'. i was pointing out how preposterous that is. with a video showing a kkk rally from not long ago. you proved my point for me. how did you not pick up on that?

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          [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Are you capable of comprehending my previous reply? I'm not sure how to spell out better without a diagram.