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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We have laws for bullying, harassment, and crimes. Use those.

Do you. What are your anti bullying laws?

  • but we can never read other people's minds.

You don't have to when it comes to applying hate speech laws. Because they said it.

Nail them for the crime

The crime is discrimination or hate speech. The nature of those crimes is that they have a target group.

Proof?

The C-16 added the words "gender identity or expression" in three places to existing laws, that already protect other groups who are victims of hate speech and discrimination.

The exact same law already acts on those other groups. Without causing a breakdown in society.

Now who's being stupid?

Not sure I'm following. Is it you?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Do you. What are your anti bullying laws?

Don't be a lazy fuck. Look them up yourself. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Canada+anti-bullying+laws

That's the you don't have to when it comes to applying hate speech laws. Because they said it.

Only IF they say it.

The crime is discrimination or hate speech. The nature of those crimes is that they have a target group.

We have discrimination laws. Don't be a lazy fuck. Look them up yourself. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Canada+discrimination+laws

Again, to my initial point: All laws that are to suppress "hate" are political bullshit, just as "equality" is bullshit when all everyone wants is consistent fairness.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Don't be a lazy fuck.

Bad day again Jason?

Want to talk about it?

You claimed there were anti-bullying laws in Canada that were sufficient to police hate speech and discrimination in Canada.

From your own links:

“Bullying” isn’t marked as a criminal offence as per the Canadian Criminal Code.

Hence my question.

Do you want to have another go without being a cunt or are you happy to leave it at this, now that we've discovered that there's no obvious laws that cover this, and certainly you're mistaken about the name of those laws?

Only IF they say it.

How can it be hate speech if they don't say it?

We have discrimination laws.

My point exactly. C-16 added the group "gender identity or expression" to your discrimination laws.

All laws that are to suppress "hate" are political bullshit

Are you calling the laws against inciting or promoting hatred "suppressing" hate?

Because anything that doesn't allow it to be spread is suppressing it?

The way you wrote it seems like you think that how an individual feels is criminal, and the laws are designed to suppress the feeling of hate in an individual. That's not the case.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Bad day again Jason?

My day was great. I can't sleep. What's your excuse for being up at 3am EST? Are you a Mossad shill operating from Israel?

From your own links:

You skipped the link you claim to cite.

Do you want to have another go without being a cunt or are you happy to leave it at this, now that we've discovered that there's no obvious laws that cover this, and certainly you're mistaken about the name of those laws?

In addition to your SJW trolling, calling me a cunt is downward again. /u/d3rr may have to ban you.

Clearly you didn't even do any research.

Only IF they say it.

How can it be hate speech if they don't say it?

Exactly my point: All laws that are to suppress "hate" are political bullshit, just as "equality" is bullshit when all everyone wants is consistent fairness.

That includes "hate speech", "hate crimes", "hate anything".

My point exactly. C-16 added the group "gender identity or expression" to your discrimination laws.

The discrimination laws have their pros and cons. The real bullshit is compelled speech. The real big bullshit is real big government.

Are you calling the laws against inciting or promoting hatred "suppressing" hate?

Don't put bullshit words in my mouth.

I don't give a fuck about "hate". I give a fuck about criminal actions, regardless of motive. If someone accidentally runs someone down, they are guilty. If they do it intentionally in hate or for the insurance payout, they are guilty. If they do in love high on ecstasy in a pink Cadillac, they are still guilty.

That's not the case.

Your government's case is full of bullshit.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't put bullshit words in my mouth.

Calm the fuck down, snowflake.

I was asking for clarification, not putting words into your mouth.

Only IF they say it.

How can it be hate speech if they don't say it?

Exactly my point: All laws that are to suppress "hate" are political bullshit, just as "equality" is bullshit when all everyone wants is consistent fairness.

What?

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Calm the fuck down, snowflake.

Again with the name-calling. Three times in one day. I think /u/d3rr needs to put you in a time-out.

Also, I'm calm. Unlike some.