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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Obesity can be cured by simply jogging three miles a day and eating a balanced diet

Jogging 3 miles is going to burn about the same calories walking 3 miles will. It seems counter intuitive, since the latter is less intense, but it takes longer. Obese people don't need to become skinny people with fucked up knees.

Also that's burning roughly 300 calories either way, or about two cans of soda, or 4 cookies. It is so much easier just not to eat that in the first place than it is to exercise.

All people need to do is not eat as much. It doesn't even have to be a balanced diet, you can whatever (even those cookies and soda) as long as you're at a caloric deficit overall.

Although some foods keep you full longer and it's absolutely miserable to try to eat at a deficit and fit crap foods in there, you absolutely can do it in theory.

The whole point is, your biggest asset in losing weight is your basal metabolic rate (BMR). Exercising, besides marathons and mountain climbing, is a pittance compared to what your BMR does even just sitting on your ass doing nothing.

People don't know this. I did not know this for a long time. Even in school they teach nonsense about it. Dieting is a big industry, so there's even more deliberate obfuscation going on there. Add to that the move against fat shaming, we try to pretend fat can be healthy.

But it is a basic unavoidable truth: If you are fat it is because you eat too much. Full stop.

Losing weight is unpleasant, like quitting a drug, so people look for gimmicks to make it easier, like quitting a drug. You just have to want it enough.

If your monkey bar moat plan goes through I'll probably just invest in a trebuchet.

[–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jogging helps a lot losing weight, not so much by burning calories but by reducing your appetite. Cant explain the precise mechanism but jogging always made me lose appetite while strength training increased it big time.

Also removing all sugary stuff from my diet gave me a huge boost in terms of both health and physical fitness. Cant overstate how much this simple but dramatic change did for me.

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If your monkey bar moat plan goes through I'll probably just invest in a trebuchet.

Golden comment!

[–]goonmessiah 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What if that isn’t true? Fat Fiction

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I need to watch this.

EDIT: oh, it's about carbs/fats. I've read Garry Taubes' Good calories, bad calories, a most excellent read.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm familiar with the saturated fat argument, that doesn't run counter to anything I said. That's adding to the subject, thermodynamics still applies, you can't lose weight without a calorie reduction. But some things make dieting easier, like avoiding carbs.

The video, I just spot checked it, is a little misleading in that while fats are essential, you get all the fats you need without trying, even on a low fat diet. 10% of your calories, as a rule of thumb, need to be fats for proper hormone regulation. But log what you eat and tell me you ever need to add fat to hit that goal, it just happens.

Also, protein is the best fuel imo, not fat. Really easy to test, eat the same amount of calories for dinner two nights in a row, once with just bacon and once with just chicken breast. Say 500 calories total. That's like 6 pieces of bacon vs. 3 chicken breast halves.

Although whether saturated fat is not as bad as we thought is an interesting argument. I don't think anyone can claim to be 100% certain about that. Nutrition is just very difficult to be certain about anything because of all the variables and the most effective tests can only be done on animals.

Personally I'm for running a dietary experiment on prisoners, allowing them to opt into a dietary study where they'd eat much better food than typical prison fare, but wouldn't have access to the commissary or outside food. We could experiment on large populations controlling everything they eat, and everyone benefits.

I know experimenting on prisoners is iffy.