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Rolling Stone 'Horse Dewormer' Hit-Piece Debunked After Hospital Says No Ivermectin Overdoses
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago* (17 children)
Thanks - it's a very intresting website by someone who wants to show - in a manner that looks scientific (but excludes significant testing) - all of the alternatives to the COVID19 vaccine, including studies of vitamin C, vitamin D, melatonin &c.
First: this is obviously a well-funded project that aims to look as though it has reliable data, presented in a manner that looks scientific, but:
Second: it does not appropriately reference the studies, the doctors, the locations of the research, the specific tests, the scientific data (other than some initial numbers &c), and:
Third:
Who is @CovidAnalysis? We are PhD researchers, scientists, people who hope to make a contribution, even if it is only very minor. You can find our research in journals like Science and Nature. We have little interest in adding to our publication lists, being in the news, or being on TV (we have done all of these things before but feel there are more important things in life now).
So these people want to remain anonymous? We should merely trust what they write, though they will not reveal the sources for their information or who they are? Moreover, scientists who are serious about their research do not write in generalities like this (we hope to make a contribution; we published in journals, we have done this before but feel there are more important things in life now).
Even if I hated the vaccine, I would not be able to trust any of this. None of their material is appropriately corrobrated, with other data, with tests, with other scientists, with previous research, with logic, with critical thinking, &c.
What's really interesting is that this website exists, that it's obviously well-funded, and that it's going to be used by anti-vaxxers to claim that they have irrefutable scientific proof - because these nice charts look scientific. If I were an anti-vaxxer I would not be convinced, but perhaps that's one mission of the website: only influence anti-vaxxers who will believe disinformation and misinformation. Those who fund the website know that they will not influence well educated people who have backgrounds in science.
One logical problem no one seems to be considering is this:
If the millions of live tests this past year of the vaccine are still not convincing to the anti-vaxxers, why would they turn to untested chemicals for a treatment? (Moreover, isn't COVID19 a hoax to them?) Why not have a consistent argument about so-called dangerous treatments and about COVID19?
Thank you for the link. It's very interesting. I would not have known of it.
[–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (16 children)
Even if I hated the vaccine, I would not be able to trust any of this.
you keep saying 'vaccine'. this shows you are completely ignorant of the entire situation.
If I were an anti-vaxxer I would not be convinced
the vast majority of us are not 'anti-vaxxers', we are 'anti-this bullshit nobody knows anything about'. it takes a true genius to be completely incapable of drawing that distinction.
Moreover, isn't COVID19 a hoax to them?
nope, your complete and utter failure to understand something simple as fuck is impressive yet again.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (15 children)
So you found this 2-day-old post in order to post insults about me? Moreover, none of this is factual or written in standard English. Hopefully you have better things to do.
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (13 children)
Why would you say that? Is there an alternate place where people are arguing that COVID19 vaccines are not vaccines?
A vaccine is literally:
A preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases.
The way this works is that the vaccine has a harmless amount of a similar strain of the virus that helps stimulate the production of antibodies. The antibodies - while they last - help with immunity.
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (2 children)
What's going on here? I study medical history. In the history of virology, all vaccines have worked in the same way, to inject something that the body will build antibodies for, in order to develop some level of immunity to a virus. I didn't make that up. Where are you getting your definition?
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (1 child)
If you study the history of vaccinations, you would know there are several different methods in which they're given. Your description is too vague, and it requires more nuance than just saying they all work the same way.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Seriously? It's not my definition. Inoculation methods are not at issue. (The standard definition of 'vaccine' was challenged.)
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (7 children)
Why are you insisting on this false information? What is your source?
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (5 children)
Thank you.
a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease
a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
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