President Donald J. Trump: All U.S. States Should Go to Paper Ballots, Same-Day in-Person Voting, Voter ID

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Paper Ballots

Absolutely

Same-Day in-Person Voting

Nope - because mail-in paper ballots can be counted for overseas citizens, and the military, and local old voters who cannot leave the house or work

Voter ID

Yes

AND: election day MUST be a national holiday

[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

overseas citizens

Why should people with permanent residence abroad have a say in what's happening in their country of origin if they don't live there?

If one is really interested in voting, then having one or two days for in-person voting is not a problem.

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permanent residence abroad have

Many - if not most - expats do not have this. In many (if not most) countries (including the US) one has to work in a relatively high-paying job for at least 7 years before they can apply for permanent residency, which is often very expensive. Many expats are students, work as contracters for the US abroad, and have other kinds of temporary jobs. There are few permanent positions for non-nationals. After getting a permanent residency card, one can - after a year or two - sometimes apply for a passport in that new 'home' country. One reason expats don't want to give up their US passports, or arrange an extra passport, is because they are dedicated to their US citizenship. They have a right to vote, and the impact each of them have on their districts is not so significant that they could decide the outcome of an election. But they should vote. The US is their country, ragardless of their physical locations.

[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I can understand that, but to me it's just weird... if you don't actually reside in the country and pay taxes, I think you shouldn't be able to affect elections which have zero consequence for you.

The reason why this bothers me is that a lot of the voters abroad who vote in elections in my country are usually more liberal leaning, likely because they are happy because of liberal policies elsewhere, but get to vote for liberal politicians in my country which I find undesirable. (Their vote can't change anything for these citizens abroad but has real impact on us who actually live in the country)

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Yes, I can see how this can be disconcerting, to import values held in other countries, and could argue that someone living in China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Brazil, the Philippines, Singapore, India or Myanmar might love the authoritarian leadership in those countries, and would want to vote for an authoritarian system in the US. But as we say, you can take the American out of the US flag colored panties, but you cannot take the US flag colored panties out of the American.