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[–]StillLessons[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I see a machine here in the process of catastrophic failure.

The "Let Them Eat Cake" reference is overused, but the profound lack of respect or empathy shown by Biden - directly responsible for the deaths of so many people now - is the siren screaming in the alarm system: "She's gonna blow!!!"

This isn't about political arguing. It's raw, personal, visceral rage.

And the class which Biden represents are absolutely blind to it.

God help us all.

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Low on the POD and on reading comprehension (which is embarrassing for you)

      [–]StillLessons[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Propaganda is the tool of the powerful to direct the mood of the plebes. Maybe that's not the official definition, but close enough.

      The woman around whom this story was structured was there. Her Facebook post described her direct experience with Biden. Other families who were also direct actors in these events concur. Their accounts of their personal experiences are not propaganda, and their accounts tell the story themselves. Remove all the rest of the words of the article and just read the quotes of the families themselves. Not propaganda, personal recountings of their experiences.

      You will then say these families are victims of propaganda and that's why they think that way. And thus you will be repeating the incredible level of disrespect and condescension they are receiving regarding their experience of losing loved ones who sacrificed their lives for this country.

      Blaming the messenger is a pathetic excuse, particularly given this particular example. You need some new material.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's of course important to think about the accuracy of your sources.

      Of course there are many in the military who are angry, were also Trump supporters, and are happy to post complaints. What zerohedge has done is dishonest, because it's used the example of a very small number to claim that "Biden Enrages Gold Star Parents Of Slain Marines," as if a large number of these parents are blaming Biden for many of the recent problems in Afghanistan. Have the Gold Star Mothers posted a complaint about Biden? Is a handful of Gold Star mothers representative of the thousands of other Gold Star Mothers? Would these mothers want troops to remain in Afghanistan any longer? Was it important for Biden's Administration to continue the withdrawal? Is it to be expected that there would be problems with the withdrawal? Is this mainly due to Biden? Zerohedge.com is spreading disinformation about the extent to which the Gold Star parents are upset, and what they're supposedly upset about. Shame on them.

      It's easy to locate a handful of people who are mad about any topic.

      Was it possible for the Biden Administration to arrange a better withdrawal? Perhaps, but logistics in any war is among the most difficult tasks to try to control.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's propaganda. The Biden administration has been working full-time on this return of soldiers to the US, along with other allies. Biden has focused his attention on the families of those soldiers. The Administration extended extraction deadline as much as they could. Of course there are problems with the evacuation, as would be expected, and the Biden Administration deserves some of the criticism. Those who blame everything on Biden most likely don't understand what's actually happening, because they are reading /s/ShitpostNews disinformation websites like zerohedge.com. Moreover, where was the emotion and outrage from the Trump supporters when 500,000 Americans died of COVID19 because the Trump Administration was so late to respond to COVID19 and called it a hoax, told people to drink bleach, &c? The 1% continues to fuck over the 99%, with the help of disinformation like that shared at zerohedge.com.

      [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      everyone in this story are idiots except for the mccollums.

      '"...when you’re the one responsible for ultimately the way things went down, you kind of feel like that person should own it a little bit more. Our son is now gone. Because of a direct decision or game plan — or lack thereof — that he put in place."'

      if you are an adult and think presidents make decisions, ESPECIALLY this one-you are 'special'.

      [–]StillLessons[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      But it's part of the job description. You are correct that the actual war policy of the US is managed a few pay-grades above the presidency, but the president must still play the part (the skillsets of politicians have a lot of overlap with those of actors). For Biden to behave the way he did tells you two things, in conjunction. As you point out, first he's not really there anyway, with his cognitive function barely hanging on to the ability to chew and swallow. But even given that he's braindead, there are different ways braindead people can act. Impatience at the service for dead soldiers is not just "not great form", it is precisely - 100% - the behavior that will most rapidly turn a crowd against you. Not only is he braindead, he also never had any empathy even before his brain rotted. That's a second and very important part here.

      Yes, he's largely a ceremonial actor. But even that role has requirements, and he demonstrates (not surprisingly, but it shouldn't be ignored all the same) precisely the wrong approach to his role.

      [–]mahavishnunj 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      totally agree with all this. you couldnt have said it better.

      [–]yoke 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)