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[–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (47 children)

theyre all vaccinated and the pandemic is ending in certain clusters. what's the point of even posting this article? Do you even know how any of this works? Yes, SURPRISE! The wealthy have better access to healthcare than us because conservatives like you support extreme turbo capitalism.

[–]thefirststone 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

The vaccinated are filthy with delta variants and must wear masks while the elites huff jet fuel for fun.

[–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

the "elites" are vaccinated too, you idiot. you'd drink a gallon of the vaccine if trump told you to. Why are we supposed to pretend you didnt politicize a pandemic and why are we supposed to pretend you care what comes out of your mouth?

It seems to me that you think you figured out a special dynamic..that you say the dumbest shit on the planet and everyone else is supposed to talk you down into reality. That's as effective as the homeless person living in the dumpster expects to be consoled and pleaded with.

Your information changes and so does your behaviour on whether conservative leaders (who are all vaccinated by the way) want you to get the vaccine or not and they use you as a bargaining chip because of how stupid you are that you'll believe in anything they say.

I dont respect stooges.

And who the fuck gave you permission to give your opinion on chemistry and medicine? Just because all your conservative circles work this way, doesnt mean that's how science works. Next you'll ramble on about how your fat beast of a mom and hairy father who never graduated highschool have opinions on climate change. Funny how all conservatives are loaded with vaccines and never had a problem with them until donald trump told them to.

[–]fschmidt 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Thank you for supporting the eugenic cull.

[–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

and how long has this eugenics cull been going on for since we've had vaccines for 500 years and that's one of the defining features of the superiority of western civilization.

Are you saying you're no longer a capitalist and want to go to socialism so we can stop corporations from inserting themselves into our most important civilizational needs like how monsanto is trying to patent certain genetic processes for food?

Do you have any coherent thoughts or just one liners?

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like traditional vaccines and I have taken many. The promoted covid vaccines are not traditional vaccines.

I am a capitalist. Corporations themselves are a violation of capitalism since they are granted limited liability by the government. The shareholders of Monsanto belong in prison for third degree murder.

Most people deserve no more than one liners. Do you deserve more? I will see.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we've had vaccines for 500 years

Even if that were true, which it isn't, we also had blood letting for far longer. That didn't stop it from being a horrible idea, just like vaccines.

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    [–]ziggy5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    im not even a democrat. what's the point of having such a sub if someone can make completely psychotic statements like vaccinated people "shed" the virus as a "no, YOUR INFECTED" retort?

    What part of the pyramid of debate is he violating when he basically erases 500 years of western civilization's medical advancements which apparently now have to be called into question as part of an illuminati conspiracy? And how do you even represent the republican party when theyre all vaccinated?

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    The pyramid of debate is a standard for how you converse, not what you discuss. You can even view the image inline by tapping the JPG button next to the link: https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg. The issue here is name calling. It doesn't add to discussions. Everyone should try to stick to at least the top 4 levels of the pyramid ideally.

    what's the point of having such a sub if someone can make completely psychotic statements

    Who would you like to determine what statements can and cannot be made? This isn't a conservative site, this is a free speech site. People have the right to speak their mind, even if you or I consider their point of view ridiculous.

    [–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

    Actively lying and spreading misinformation violates your pyramid of debate. But i guess that's your tactic. "Shedding the virus"?/ WTF? Is this the only way you can defend your views? His views arent "ridiculous". Theyre actively lying to the point where it's obvious to the people who support him.

    You're here to feign offence at "name calling" and you feign hypersensitivity to feelings yet you dont mind people just making shit up on the spot? Have some sense of shame.

    And why are you acting like a fool? You now want to activate a 900 hour philosophical discussion on the nature of truth, on what and what cannot be made as statements on this forum? You do realize you're not seen as clever. This is what a child does. Im pretty sure you dont need a 900 hour discussion to form a treatise on this site for what constitutes truth to help you discern things like "unicorns stole my baby" or "vaccines make you shed".

    The more you open your mouth, the more you expose how cheap and superficial your "moderating" is. Go talk to and censor the "shedding" comments or the ridiculous post that he made.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    I'm not the guy you were talking to, just trying to get you to actually read the rules. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I can relate to the issue, on Reddit every sub wants you to read their rules and if you're in hundreds of subs that's impractical. It teaches people not to read any rules. Normally that even works out mostly fine as long as you maintain a certain conduct, but reddit conduct really stands out here.

      So the guy probably thinks we're just particularly anal about sub rules and doesn't understand they're different in a small but significant way.

      [–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You're feigning this dynamic where you're being hysterical in your disinformation and then pretending YOURE the one calming people down? lol what are you trying to do? Reason me out of the very idea of reason itself?

      [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      i know you're not the guy i was talking to. You're literally a mod, which makes it worse.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I just clean up spam from bots.

      [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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        [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Regulate the disinformation. That drags down the "pyramid of debate" more than anything.

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          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          pure shills dont converse with me, instead they converse "at me".

          shill posts are hostile towards other people opinions and ideas.

          And who the fuck gave you permission to give your opinion on chemistry and medicine?

          my point, precisely.. a typical shill assault, intended to insult.

          [–]p_millz 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          The virus behind this unnaturally occurring "pandemic" was created in a lab by the very people you take healthcare advice from. I think you're the stooge.

          I'm all for vaccines that go through proper testing protocols, etc., but why would I get vaccinated for something that I literally have a 0% chance of dying from?

          I watch what I eat, exercise, generally take good care of myself, and don't take any pharmaceuticals. I don't plan on injecting any mystery fluids into my bloodstream just to keep me from a fever and nausea for a couple days. I'd suggest you consider doing the same.

          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          The virus behind this unnaturally occurring "pandemic" was created in a lab

          the truth is that there are only a few people that know the origin of the covid scam, and i seriously doubt that you are one of those people.

          [–]p_millz 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Well at least we can agree that it is a scam.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Thank you for your post. $0.5 has been deposited into your account.

          [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          yeah, i should listen to your hairy mom who couldn't even finish highschool instead of the CDC and their $6.8 billion dollar budget of chemists and scientists and their research.

          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

          ziggy5 is a paid transmesmite shill with a PRO-VAXX agenda.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          this is low pyramid man

          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          my bad, d3rr, i edited that.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          thanks

          [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          you're politicizing something your family has been doing for 100's of years? Your entire family is loaded with vaccines but suddenly you decide to politicize THIS virus and vaccine? Hmmm, could it be because a certain loser told you to?

          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          i do not debate shills.

          [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          your parents loaded you with 20 different types of vaccines in the 80's. Why is it an issue now?

          [–]skeeterPresidential Hopeful 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          I have never taken a single vaccine, period.

          [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          yes..you have. Period. lol Are you now going to act like a sassy black woman? All your vaccines were given to you as a baby to protect you. Otherwise, our infant mortality rates would look more like africa's.

          [–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          what's the point of even posting this article?

          The person who made the post knows people will only read the title and then trash Obama and "libs" in their replies.

          Do you even know how any of this works?

          Yes, Obama is holding a party and he's not making people wear a hazmat suit so that obviously means COVID19 epidemic is false and created to tank trump's presidency. As if trump's incompetence was not enough alone to tank his presidency.

          Yes, SURPRISE! The wealthy have better access to healthcare than us

          Only because Obama and liberals are elitists who are hogging all the good healthcare for themselves and not sharing with the rest of society.

          Shalom

          ✡️️

          [–]MarkJeffersonGreen Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          [–]ziggy5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Again, why are you acting like a child? This isnt an illuminati conspiracy theory. This was said in the very beginning and we have known this for over 500 years: Being vaccinated protects YOU from being damaged but it doesnt mean you cant harm other people from it by being a carrier. This is why people were told that vaccinated people weren't safer. It's like carrying aids and it having no affect on you but then giving it to someone and having it ravage them. Or carrying Ebola and being immune to it but giving it to vulnerable people.

          You're not even conservative and if you're advocating for hysterical propaganda.

          [–]MarkJeffersonGreen Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          AIDS is a virus syndrome- not a pathogen that can be carried. You're talking about HIV. If you ARE "carrying" AIDS then you ARE already being affected and ravaged by it.

          Also, if you're carrying Ebola and giving it to vulnerable people then the Ebola has already been propagating in and bursting your own cells to enable itself to infect others. There's no such thing as "being immune to Ebola" and yet still replicating and spreading it in the way you describe. Any trace viroids are rapidly tagged by proximal antibodies and consumed by your T-cells or undergo entropy.

          There may be some reasonable arguments that can be made for increasing herd immunity by reducing opportunities for adaptive mutations but that's definitely not what you're talking about here. You're also expelling a lot of random bluster and ad homs but you seem to be out of your depth when it comes to this subject.

          [–]ziggy5 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          You mean im supposed to be incredibly careful and specific with terms around a crowd of people who think we "shred" the virus and the conservatives need masks to protect themselves from the "shredding" of vaccinated people being injected with Bill Gates microchips?

          You're awfully full of yourself for being this stringent with semantics judging by the people you're surrounded by on here as if they'd know the difference between AIDS and HIV.

          Vaccines protect you from the virus that you can still carry and affect other people with. Where's the illuminati conspiracy? And you also comment on LGBdroptheT. Do your homosexual friends know how completely batshit crazy you are?

          [–]MarkJeffersonGreen Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          You're awfully full of yourself for being this stringent with semantic judging by the people you're surrounded by on here as if they'd know the difference between AIDS and HIV.

          Yeah, I'm AWFULLY full of myself for daring to correct you on your ignorance. Either that or you were spreading disinfo and using medical terms in a manner you KNEW were wrong but you did it anyway because you assumed everyone would be too lazy/stupid to fact check it(which is oh SO much better I feel so happy that there are people like that out there "educating" the public like this). You think the difference between AIDS and HIV and the biology of immunity is just some mere formality to doctors? I'm sure no one at all gave a hang about semantics during those 500+ years of immunization development. Who cares whether the label says 'Polio' or 'Hepatitis' or the pathological difference between rubeola and roseola(they look the same to the hicks)?

          The rest of what your rant is essentially more excuses/justifications for what you just did and Ad Hominem towards me and others to distract from the egg on your face. Once again, you're out of your depth.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Where are you pulling this 500 years from?