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[–]thefirststone 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

shaking her head: "What do we do: CDC tells us one thing today, the very opposite tomorrow".

A stark reminder that physicians are agents of government.

[–]Horrux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

| A stark reminder that physicians and government are agents of big pharma.

FTFY

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Can you tell where one ends and the other begins? I can't.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

So getting the vaccine means the disease is so mild it takes virus testing to identify, while unvaccinated people die from it.

[–]GST893 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Nobody is dying from this bs variant WuFlu 2.0. Deaths are at all time lows, and we now know that pcr testing is bs as well. How many of those supposed 600k deaths were actually real influenza? Btw natural immunity is 700% better than the antibody dependent enhancement clot shot.

[–]iDontShift 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

we now know that pcr testing is bs as well.

we knew then. the guy that made it has been saying it since the 90's

[–]GST893 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, Dr Kary Mullis also called out Fauci for being a lying fraud years ago as well.

[–]iDontShift 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

fyi

Mullis = guy that made pcr

and yes

[–]pizda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're full of shit

[–]GST893 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL!

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Btw natural immunity is 700% better than the antibody dependent

Wait.....wait.... wait....

How do you think immunity develops without your body producing antibodies?

[–]AmericanMuskratIndependent 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

He's saying the experimental way in which we're producing those antibodies with the vaccine is less preferable to obtaining immunity the normal way.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why is vaccine antibody generation less preferable to having an unknown virus hijack your cells, potentially causing long term disability or death while rapidly mutating?

[–]AmericanMuskratIndependent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

We don't know what unintended consequences, if anything, the vaccine is going to end up causing in 10 or even 25 years later.

That's not a wacko fringe belief, it's not even uncommon for pharmaceuticals. And it's not even uncommon for the pharmaceutical companies to lie or fudge the truth for the sake of profits.

I personally am vaccinated, I chose it, but I respect that not everyone wants the vaccine and I think it's probably prudent to do so.

I don't really get the fanaticism against that position, who cares if Joe Bob in Arkansas doesn't get the shot if 74% of India isn't vaccinated? They already are responsible for the delta variant that doesn't seem to care if you're vaccinated or not.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

We don't know what unintended consequences, if anything, the vaccine is going to end up causing in 10 or even 25 years later.

We also don't know what the effects of virus infection are 10 or 25 years later, but we do know vaccination reduces infection rate and symptom severity.

[–]AmericanMuskratIndependent 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You could have said at one point, we don't know what Vioxx will do 10 or 15 years later but we know untreated rheumatoid arthritis is just going to keep getting worse.

Anyways, it's not something you can just answer away. We won't know till we know, and that's going to take time.

Although I imagine most people you're arguing with about covid vaccines don't generally particularly care about the pharmaceutical industry in a normal year, but suddenly they really care about something that might happen in a quarter century.

It's still valid though, and here's my thinking. Lets imagine a worst case scenario. We see no ill effects until 5 generations in and then suddenly from some unintended consequence of events there's something catastrophic. Dog faced mutant babies, the whole lot of them. Every single baby comes out with an ugly snoutful of gnashing teeth. And after so long, pretty much everyone is going to be vaccinated except the !click !click !tok tribe in the rain forest, so the only intelligent life on Earth is soon going to be a bunch of savages and the mole people.

We could use a backup in case that, or something less ridiculous, happens.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

click !click !tok tribe in the rain forest, so the only intelligent life on Earth is soon going to be a bunch of savages and the mole people.

When you die alone, like the unlovable racist monster that you are, how long do you think it will take them to find your body?

[–]AmericanMuskratIndependent 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Calling isolated tribes savages isn't racist, it's the very definition of the term. Savages - not domesticated or cultivated; wild.

When you die alone, like the unlovable racist monster that you are, how long do you think it will take them to find your body?

And you think I'm the hateful one. Anyways, insults are not particularly relevant to the discussion at hand.

[–]Although 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're misunderstanding. He's talking about ADE, (antibody-dependent enhancement). Search it.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't know much about the human immune system.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know enough that your body maintains immunity through memory B cells that produce antibodies.