'Do You Need An ID To Rent An Apartment?': Nancy Mace Asks Witness Rapid-Fire Questions About ID

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[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Renting an apartment from someone or a business is not a civil right, voting is. That's why an ID is not required when it comes time to vote. If Republican politicians in Texas want to enact voter ID laws. How about politicians discover examples of mass fraudulent votes being cast and use that for justification of trying to create new voter ID laws? They don't do so because they have no examples of mass voter fraud that took place. Texas Republicans just want to make it harder for Blacks and the poor to vote because it's against the law to institute a poll tax.

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Illegal immigrants vote Democrat, and they're the ones with a big problem obtaining identification, not blacks. The only valid argument I see is some people might not be able to afford the $25 a Texas ID costs. Making it free instead sounds like a downright sensible solution to that potential problem.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Illegal immigrants vote Democrat

Illegals don't vote, do you have any links you can provide me with that shows illegals cast their votes for democrats in this past Presidential election?

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Illegals don't vote

*Aren't supposed to vote. They aren't supposed to be able to be employed either, that's the harder one since you actually need ID for a job, but they accomplish it. Why would they ever not vote too?

do you have any links you can provide me with that shows illegals cast their votes for democrats in this past Presidential election?

Are you being serious? You want me to provide proof that people are breaking the law in a system that does not bother to verify identities. Let me know if you have anything to discuss in good faith.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

*Aren't supposed to vote.

They don't vote, do you know of any instances of illegals voting for Biden?

They aren't supposed to be able to be employed either, that's the harder one since you actually need ID for a job

Don't deflect to working a job, the topic at hand is voter fraud, not workplace fraud. Try to stay on topic please.

Are you being serious?

Yes, you say there is fraud, aren't there any conservative news sites on the internet that reported on voter fraud that took place this past election? Out of all the votes that were fraudulent, not even one of them were arrested?

You want me to provide proof that people are breaking the law in a system that does not bother to verify identities.

When someone shows up to vote they show up, tell the worker their address, the worker locates their name and then the person who is about to vote is to sign with their name and a worker then verifies the signatures match up. If the signatures match up then that person can vote. If the signatures don't match up that person is given a provisional ballot that does not count until it's either verified or rejected at a later date.

You say people are breaking the law, when people break the law, some get caught, you cant even come up with one name of someone who was caught committing voter fraud? Lemme guess, no one was caught casting a fraudulent vote?

Let me know if you have anything to discuss in good faith.

Look who's talking, you say there is voter fraud and you can not even come up with one name of someone who was caught casting a fraudulent vote.

I was able to find one instance of voter fraud in 2020 but it's not the voter fraud you had in mind.

Colorado man suspected in wife's death cast ballot for Donald Trump on her behalf, court documents show

DENVER – A Colorado man suspected in the death of his wife has been accused of casting a fraudulent vote on her behalf, court documents show.

Barry Morphew told investigators he mailed the ballot voting for Donald Trump in November’s presidential election on behalf of his wife, Suzanne Morphew, who disappeared on Mother's Day 2020. He said “all these other guys are cheating,” and that he thought his wife would have voted for Trump anyway, according to an arrest warrant affidavit signed Thursday by a judge in Chaffee County.

lol, sounds like Mr. Morphew could be a user here.

It took me less than a minute to come up with an example of voter fraud in Trump's favor and you still cant even come up with one in Biden's favor. So, how was Mr. Morphew caught if identities are not verified?

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You can pay for this paper, if you're curious:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379414000973

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They don't vote, do you know of any instances of illegals voting for Biden?

Someone pointed out this tactic you use, it is rather annoying. That's a informal logical fallacy, it's rookie shit.

Didn't read the rest of what you wrote. I'm going to participate in good faith discussions only.

[–]Zapped 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Where is voting a civil right? I've been hearing all year from the left that there was no fraud. Now, it has evolved to no "mass" fraud. Next, it will be no "meaningful" fraud. I am past tired of hearing the argument that darker skin makes people too stupid to follow the same rules as lighter skin people.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where is voting a civil right?

In America.

I've been hearing all year from the left that there was no fraud.

Trump's own lawyers could not find any evidence of voter fraud, that's the reason why all of Trump's election day lawsuits failed. There was no evidence of voter fraud. Are you privy to information Trump's lawyers were not privy to?

Now, it has evolved to no "mass" fraud.

You're going to play the semantics game and say, "there were four instances of voter fraud, therefore I am correct that there was fraud in the election". By saying mass fraud, that means there was enough fraud to turn the election for President Biden. I'll play along, forget I said "mass fraud". If there was fraud in the election, why did 50 of Trump's lawsuits fail?

State and federal judges -- some appointed by Trump -- have dismissed more than 50 lawsuits brought by Trump or his allies alleging election fraud and other irregularities. Independent experts, governors and state election officials from both parties say there has been no evidence of widespread fraud.

“I am very concerned that they will use these false claims of fraud, which have been rejected in every court that heard them, as an excuse to disenfranchise voters,” Elias said in an email to Reuters. “They’re trying to do what they have been doing for the last year — or more — to make voting harder in general and in particular for Black, brown and young voters.”

Next, it will be no "meaningful" fraud.

Nope, just plain ole fraud. So, where is the fraud? No mass fraud, no meaningful fraud but regular fraud. Where's the fraud?

Where's the evidence of fraud? Why did Trump's lawyers fail to provide evidence of fraud in court? Judges he appointed tossed out his false claims of election fraud. Once again, regular fraud.

I am past tired of hearing the argument that darker skin makes people too stupid to follow the same rules as lighter skin people.

I bet that just rankles you, Jewish heroes like Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman along with James Chaney and Andrew Goodman died to help Blacks exercise their right to vote in the south. Three young men who were tragically killed.

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[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So your statement on voting being a civil right in the U.S.A. is an opinion?

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search Be careful when you deal in absolutes.

"I bet ......"

Again, an unfounded opinion and straw man statement that has nothing to do with what I said.

I understand the purposed for the novelty account, but like the others, I think any ore of my energy should be spent elsewhere.

[–]sproketboy[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Voting is a privilege which should be revoked from retarded people such as yourself.

[–]ShalomEveryoneCommunist Party 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Shalom aleichem (Peace be upon you)

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