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[–]StillLessons 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

I doubt this.

As a vaccine refuser, I can speak for myself and it has nothing to do with Trump. Let's not forget that Trump put a lot of his own political capital into making the vaccines happen. He stamped his name all over Operation Warp Speed. He and Melania are both vaccinated (though less publicly than many).

I'm sure there are people who are responding to vaccination according to the political horse race, but I would like to think there is a larger cohort of people like me who have been doing our homework outside of politics.

I am not vaccinated because I have been focused on numbers and data since day 0. I have a history of posts on here where I describe how the threat of Covid 19 virus has been way overblown, and more recently how the threat of the vaccines has been way suppressed.

These data scare me regardless of which "name" currently has the ring of power.

Forget the names and the mudslinging. Amazingly enough, the CDC (including VAERS) still shows data publicly available demonstrating without question that the official story (safe vaccines! Come, take them! Save Grandma! Most recently: "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated") is absolute horseshit.

This goes way beyond the every-4-year tribal affiliation ritual. In fact, the very fact of how much deeper systemically this runs should be the element to really terrify us.

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I'm also tired of being grouped in with Trumpists concerning this issue. They must have forgotten all the shit Trump peddled in his time as Pres.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    You are just as silly as socks and actuallynot

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Look harder.

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        [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

        Seems strange that you would give the pro-jab sources much credibility under the mountains of lies and censorship with the obvious Agenda 2030 in play.

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          [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

          You're also not giving any credibility to the non-corporate media, many of whom have bent over backwards to be fair to the scientism.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Sorry, but not making a decision IS making a decision....in this case, it happens to be the right one I'd say.

          [–]mahavishnunj 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          I can't make an informed decision if I don't have access to all the information.

          i dont think THATS why you cant make an informed decision, lol.

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            [–]mahavishnunj 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            so profound. was that the program/paid call center situation/or you being a human? if its the latter, lol.

            [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            Not close.

            IMO, AXXA is a legit progressive and still buys into the Left-Right malarkey.

            IMO, Socks and ActuallyNot are SJW shills for authority and insanity via dogmatic irrationality.

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              [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

              There are the fake-progressives like AOC who perpetually lies and serves the Dems, SJWs and BLM interests of the ruling class war to divide and distract while promising everything and providing nothing. I know socks likes them and I suspect ActuallyNot does too.

              Authentic progressives are like Jimmy Dore, Kim Iversen, etc. The old-left that has been hijacked by the corporatocracy and is now mostly voiceless and being censored. Many of them still buy into the Left-Right paradigm, though now that they're being disenfranchised many are waking up to the fact that the entire political system is rigged and voting is a joke.

              Perhaps you can reflect upon this or clarify your actual self-perceived stance if you care to.

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                [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                Ah, good to know. I thought you might have been more progressive for posting Bernie stuff. Glad to know you're more of a minarchist/voluntaryist, like me.

                UBI, Medicare, military, police, firemen, judicial system, government are all social/socialist institutions. If they were fair I wouldn't have a problem with them as I do when they are corrupt. If they can fund the military to kill then IMO they should fund actual healthcare, not the sickcare system we have. But it's never been about being fair.

                I'd vote for a Minarchist Party if one existed.

                [–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                ^

                Saved.